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Re: False Trophies
[Re: Garbo]
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01/15/13 09:58 AM
01/15/13 09:58 AM
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Shelby County
BibbCounty
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6 point
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Shelby County
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I watched the Lance Armstrong news this morning and it really made me think.
I have fished competitively on the IFA Redfish Tour. On the IFA Tour there are rules that would look like they would be somewhat easy to break, but before my partner and I ever entered the first tournament we had the discussion that it was not an option to even test any one of the rules, but we would have to stay well within the rules in order to have no question of our own of did we actually win or rank where we should have. My partner and I had no sponsors and we had to compete with better prepared, better funded and sponsored teams. We were very successful and did very well finishing the year with a few wins and 6th. We are just to Average Joes.
I have heard of people poaching a big buck and mounting it with pride. I have heard of people running into a big buck with a vehicle and claiming it a trophy. I have even heard of people buying mounted bucks and go as far as stealing them. Why?
I personally feel the same way about a buck that I claim as a trophy as I feel about Lance Armstrong's admitting the use of performance enhancing drugs to win. I would not want the trophy if I done what Lance done as it would be a False Trophy as he broke the rules. I look at a buck on my wall the same way...If I didn't take it in sporting fashion and fairly it's just not going to hold a value to me. I don't see how Lance could look at himself as accomplished at all if he actually done what has been reported he admitted to doing, and I would feel the same way if I took a trophy buck in any fashion that was not sporting and fair.
Why would anyone want a trophy buck that was falsely acquired? I could see buying a big mounted buck to hang in a lodge or nice hunting camp or something for decoration, but would never claim I shot it. Of course I have a few myself , so there wouldnt be a need for me to buy one. I also could see somebody mounting a really big deer that was hit by a car or something... but ever making a claim you hunted it and killed it would just be silly.
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Re: False Trophies
[Re: Garbo]
#502574
01/15/13 10:28 AM
01/15/13 10:28 AM
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Hampton Cove
foldemup
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14 point
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Posts: 9,990
Hampton Cove
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If a big buck totals my truck, his arse is going on the wall and I kilt him dead with a GMC
If you want to always win, never play anyone better than you!
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Re: False Trophies
[Re: Garbo]
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01/15/13 12:37 PM
01/15/13 12:37 PM
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Harpersville, AL
tfd1224
14 point
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14 point
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Harpersville, AL
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Nope couldn't do it. I have often thought about this. I know I couldn't do it because I was faced with a difficult decision the other day. I had bought everything I needed to make some smoked sausage and I had been trying to kill a doe for 2 weeks just for that purpose and couldn't see a deer. Well I was fixing to head down to the hunting club so like I do periodically through the season I went to a peice of property I hunt beside my house to check my rifle and make sure my scope was still on. Well I drive my truck onto the field where the shooting range is and right under the tripod I hunt, there are 2 does standing there looking at me. I roll my window down and load my rifle and get the big doe in the crosshairs, I just can't do it. I have never killed an illegal deer and I ain't gonna start now. Well I guess someone was watching because I went to the club and saw 18 deer in three hunts and ended up killing two does the right way. I just wouldn't feel right killing a big buck or any deer illegally and I dang sure couldn't brag about it or display it if I did.
Yeah cmon. Daniel White
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Re: False Trophies
[Re: longspur69]
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01/15/13 01:02 PM
01/15/13 01:02 PM
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Gulf Coast
Garbo
OP
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Gulf Coast
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I agree totally. With that said, I have no more interest in Lance's accomplishments than I would if they caught the world's greatest ping pong player juicing, or the fastest cup stacker. He's a freaking bicycle rider. I completely agree with you. What a Looser. For years he allowed people to celebrate himself and his accomplishments all the while knowing he did not deserve either the praise or accomplishments. Someone would have to be really full of themselves or simply a HUGE Lier to do what he done. I look at claiming a trophy buck that was taken in an unsportsmanlike manner, illegally or not even killed by the person claiming it as their trophy as much the same.
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Re: False Trophies
[Re: Garbo]
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01/15/13 01:53 PM
01/15/13 01:53 PM
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Posts: 11,455
Kennedy, al
globe
Booner
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Posts: 11,455
Kennedy, al
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Sorry to some, but I don't like people shooting deer Out of their back doors on a 2 acre house lot. Always has been a sore subject with me. Just not my idea of hunting at ALL. I know some will disagree.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: False Trophies
[Re: Garbo]
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01/15/13 02:09 PM
01/15/13 02:09 PM
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In a Van, down by the River
quailman
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 13,042
In a Van, down by the River
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I could easily open my back door and kill deer just about every day. Have never done it though.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: False Trophies
[Re: tfd1224]
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01/15/13 02:15 PM
01/15/13 02:15 PM
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40Bucks
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....I drive my truck onto the field where the shooting range is and right under the tripod I hunt, there are 2 does standing there looking at me. I roll my window down and load my rifle and get the big doe in the crosshairs, I just can't do it. I have never killed an illegal deer and I ain't gonna start now.... I have never killed a deer from a vehicle. However, I've also never interpreted the huntaing laws of AL to say that firing your weapon at a deer from inside a vehicle is against the law, that is, unless it is within 50 yards of a public road or railroad. I have had a discussion on this same topic with a friend and we concluded that firing a weapon at a game animal, from parked vehicle on one's own private property would not violate the law. Maybe we're wrong, be we didn't think so when we were talking about it. Is the 'shooting range' you mentioned, your personal property?
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Re: False Trophies
[Re: Garbo]
#502824
01/15/13 02:29 PM
01/15/13 02:29 PM
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alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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alabama
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strict reading of the law says it is illegal to hunt by aid of a motor vehicle. It was enforced that way for dozens of years. About 1986? er so Montgomery decided it was "legal" to shoot from a motor vehicle, a decision made by the Chief of Enforcement, not the legislature or any courts.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: False Trophies
[Re: 40Bucks]
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01/15/13 02:59 PM
01/15/13 02:59 PM
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Harpersville, AL
tfd1224
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....I drive my truck onto the field where the shooting range is and right under the tripod I hunt, there are 2 does standing there looking at me. I roll my window down and load my rifle and get the big doe in the crosshairs, I just can't do it. I have never killed an illegal deer and I ain't gonna start now.... I have never killed a deer from a vehicle. However, I've also never interpreted the huntaing laws of AL to say that firing your weapon at a deer from inside a vehicle is against the law, that is, unless it is within 50 yards of a public road or railroad. I have had a discussion on this same topic with a friend and we concluded that firing a weapon at a game animal, from parked vehicle on one's own private property would not violate the law. Maybe we're wrong, be we didn't think so when we were talking about it. Is the 'shooting range' you mentioned, your personal property? no i do not own the property. i worded my post wrong. i had just drove up on these deer. i did not give them the pass because i thought i would get caught. i gave them the pass because to me it was morally wrong to kill a deer in that fashion. now dont get me wrong i may be the first one to hunt from my truck on a gasline on a rainy day but i am not driving around. i am just sitting there with the truck off for hours at a time and i dont view that being any different than sitting in a shooting house.
Yeah cmon. Daniel White
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Re: False Trophies
[Re: tfd1224]
#503191
01/15/13 07:41 PM
01/15/13 07:41 PM
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MattIce
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Have you ever tried to be a game warden?
Parked in a holler, beneath the mountain moon light.
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Re: False Trophies
[Re: Beer Belly]
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01/15/13 08:03 PM
01/15/13 08:03 PM
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Posts: 19,222
colbert county
cartervj
Old Mossy Horns
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colbert county
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Lance made MILLIONs of dollars cheating. MILLIONs. His Live Strong charity takes in $50 million per year and gives back $10 million.
Susan B Komen same
Barry Bonds made Millions of $
Mark McGuire
Husk Hogan (roids are illegal)
Sylvester Stalone
Chicks in movies (fake boobs, lip injections)
Nascar
Business
Television Preachers
-------> Where do people not cheat?
People Suck!!!!!
college football players gaining 20 lbs of muscle mass in 2 weeks after loosing 10 lbs
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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