All they "deserve" is what they earn or what you choose to earn for them. No one deserves anything based upon what others have earned. Backwards created that chance WITH his hard work, it wasn't given to him just because someone else had it.

You’re conflating “hard work” with wealth. Like wealth is a measure of how hard someone works. That is simply not always true, I know plenty of people who work really hard who are well below his tax bracket. I’ve got a cousin who works in maintenance at the Blue Bell factory, doing electrical, lifting heavy motors, having to wear cold gear to work sub freezing coolers one day, and in the blazing sun on the roof the next. In no world could he send two kids to college at anything resembling current tuition prices, but he works as hard as anyone else.

And you're using your own definition of "hard work". Some people work hard to study and pass a test. Does that mean they slaved in the hot sun?

They’re both hard work in my opinion. I can sit in an air conditioned room and have a mentally grueling day, or I can be on autopilot mentally but having a grueling day in a ditch. Or I can be studying for an important certification exam with flash cards, memorizing formulas and acronyms, and reviewing study guides for weeks straight. It all classifies as hard work to me.

The way I understand it is, I didn’t get taxed on my OT from the state this year meaning more money in my pocket and less in state refund I got

I'm really starting to think you don't understand taxes

Yes but you paid in less throughout the year too correct. So you wouldn’t get back the same if you paid less in. I mean I don’t know your exact situation but it sounds like what you are saying is exactly what should have happened.

“I’m really starting to think you don't understand taxes“

Imagine me… hands tucked under my armpits flapping my wings making chicken sounds…

Once you realize someone has made a good point, just say yeah you’re right I didn’t think about it that way. Don’t dance around and avoid answering the question.

Everyone knows that if you make your property into a “farm” you get plenty of tax breaks and government incentives. And you know that you have taken advantage of these discounts.

I really don't know why I continue to respond to this nonsense sense but I will one more time because I feel so strongly about taxes. If some takes a legal dedication from THEIR income, and still pays upward of 50% of THEIR hard earned money, it's NOT a break! The only person who would not care if someone broke into their house and stole their money would only be someone who's money was not theirs OR DIDNT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO REPLACE IT! It's my money, earned by me, and no one is giving me a BREAK to get to keep it. As I stated before, I believe the education system was designed to weed out free thinkers and people who can do for themselves, I'll still bet you did well in college!!!

And one more thing just your FYI, changing your income source, does NOT change your income bracket!

Correct

I flunked out after one semester of JUCO. So you missed that one. And you are wrong about that part of the education system. It’s designed to make money. And it was designed to that purpose very well.

A tax break by definition is an advantage that one has over another that is allowed by the government. So you get government assistance. You are basically on welfare. No different than those terrible democrats on food stamps.

So I’ll ask you the same thing you asked the other guy…

Why should the hard earned money I pay in taxes pay for your tax breaks you get just because you own a farm???

You chose to have a farm, you shouldn’t get any special treatment compared to those who don’t own a farm.

Yes it can. It just depends on what the source is. Ask Trump.

OP lost me in the first post when he said he got screwed because his student loan wasn't forgiven or something like that. You lose me on that because I was a person that just missed the LE Assistance program of the 70s and what ever program they have going on now. I fell between the two but still managed to go to college and get a BS and a MA which required taking out loans. When it came time to pay them back I did so on a police officer's salary while raising a family. Every red penny was paid back. No late payments or forgiveness. Anyone that does not understand the definition of what a loan is doesn't need to borrow money. Bottom line, no sympathy from me.

I don't you jackass, i get the same business deductions that every tax paying American gets. And I'm laughing my ass of right now, because you are the first human being on earth to accuse me of being on welfare. I do NOT have a fsa farm number, I do not subsidy farm, I don't get a penny from government programs although I qualify for many

Same same except I am in healthcare. Paid back all mine and my wife’s.

We signed the note and paid what we obligated ourselves to.

Well first of all I’m not playing favorites. Stick me in a Time Machine and I would have been just as supportive of you getting your assistance as I would be today. I don’t just want for myself, because it barely affects me any more. I want more opportunities for everyone.

Looking way back in Google, college for 4 year public school in 1975 was $500 a year. Not a semester, a year. Auburn is currently $6600 per semester, so $13200 for two semesters or $19800 if you go all three semesters. That’s just tuition by the way. Assuming you live off campus at home and no meal plan.

Adjusted for inflation, $550 in 1975 was worth about $3300 in today money. So, $3300 vs $13200. Not too many people can afford $13000 (real number probably higher with books, parking permits, mandatory meal cards) and do you think you could do it on the average salary of a cop in Alabama today, which is about $55k?

1. I’d rather see a reduction in the size of our government, leading to a reduction in tax burden. Preferably, I’d like to see a dissolution of the tiered income tax system. That should be replaced with either a flat tax or preferably a sales tax/tariff system. Is a tax break for tips and overtime fair to everyone? No. I’d much prefer to see tax reductions across the board. At the same time, as long as other income brackets are not forced to compensate, I’ll support any bit we can reduce the supply going to our wasteful government.

2. I have zero sympathy for you whiny, entitled pricks who think I should pay for your dumb decisions. Aka student loans. I dropped out of college, started working for $9/hr, and 12 years of 50-100 hour work weeks later, I bought the company and am doing well financially. Meanwhile, the standard college student spent $80k to party and get a business degree. Then yall are surprised when you’re only making $75k/yr. 10 years into a career of 40 hour work weeks. Make better decisions, take more risks, work more hours, and quit you’re bitching.

I mostly agree with your first point, except I think the ultra rich (no not anyone here) should have a little more to ensure their “trickle down” actually trickles down.

But for #2.. it’s great that worked for you, but if everyone did that, we’d soon have no doctors, nurses, teachers, engineers (aerospace, mechanical, electrical, chemical, civil, and more), architects, mathematicians, dentists, optometrists, pharmacists, veterinarians, radiologists and anesthesiologists, physical therapists, actual therapists, forensics, accountants..

Software developers, IT specialists, cybersecurity specialists would take a hit. Not every job requires those to have a bachelors but many do. Or they cap you if you don’t.

So who will all the trades people build big buildings for then? How would society function without any of them?

A lot of those make enough after graduation to be OK (Dr, lawyer, etc) but a lot come out with debt equaling their first year salary or more. It’s a big burden just to do the career you wanna do.