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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
[Re: CNC]
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11/14/24 01:35 AM
11/14/24 01:35 AM
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bhammedic84
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really hard to do anything with free range deer... you kill "x" number and 4 more take its place. its really really hard when your land boarders 3 sides of public.. we got a rule on our lease that we have to kill 4.5 or older and 8 or bigger.. but those deer that are not quite to the qualifications slip off on the wma then they get shot...
Turkeyās tell you when they want to die not lawmakers.
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
[Re: Ben2]
#4229653
11/14/24 09:00 AM
11/14/24 09:00 AM
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Snuffy
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Moulton,AL
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I don't know but in 30 yrs we have shot 30 does a yr to 0 does a yr for several consecutive seasons during different attempts to make a change and basically it does not matter, the only thing we noticed the several yrs we shot 30 was we saw fewer deer. Size and weight did not increase # of bucks did not increase, rut activity did not increase. So now we just shoot one if we want and don't worry about it. ^^^This^^^
If you always do what you've always done you always get what you've always got
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
[Re: Snuffy]
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11/14/24 11:36 AM
11/14/24 11:36 AM
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Posts: 9,634 Right behind you
Mbrock
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I don't know but in 30 yrs we have shot 30 does a yr to 0 does a yr for several consecutive seasons during different attempts to make a change and basically it does not matter, the only thing we noticed the several yrs we shot 30 was we saw fewer deer. Size and weight did not increase # of bucks did not increase, rut activity did not increase. So now we just shoot one if we want and don't worry about it. ^^^This^^^ Hmmmm. We see all of the above on properties we manage with selective doe harvest based on the data we have. If you can improve habitat and correct the sex ratio all of those things happen as a result. It takes a lot of land, because neighbors affect what youāre doing, but Iāve seen it work very well.
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
[Re: Mbrock]
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11/14/24 12:08 PM
11/14/24 12:08 PM
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Posts: 20,077 Pelham
Ben2
Freak of Nature
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I don't know but in 30 yrs we have shot 30 does a yr to 0 does a yr for several consecutive seasons during different attempts to make a change and basically it does not matter, the only thing we noticed the several yrs we shot 30 was we saw fewer deer. Size and weight did not increase # of bucks did not increase, rut activity did not increase. So now we just shoot one if we want and don't worry about it. ^^^This^^^ Hmmmm. We see all of the above on properties we manage with selective doe harvest based on the data we have. If you can improve habitat and correct the sex ratio all of those things happen as a result. It takes a lot of land, because neighbors affect what youāre doing, but Iāve seen it work very well. 1500 acres, soybeans, corn, millet, wheat, clover etc etc. You can Holler at me anytime and come check it out and see what you think. Bring the kids and take some does home with you
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
[Re: Ben2]
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11/14/24 12:42 PM
11/14/24 12:42 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 25,451 Awbarn, AL
CNC
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Dances With Weeds
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I don't know but in 30 yrs we have shot 30 does a yr to 0 does a yr for several consecutive seasons during different attempts to make a change and basically it does not matter, the only thing we noticed the several yrs we shot 30 was we saw fewer deer. Size and weight did not increase # of bucks did not increase, rut activity did not increase. So now we just shoot one if we want and don't worry about it. Itās most likely due to a neighbor or neighbors around you who probably have a lot of good fawning habitat and good fawn recruitment ratesā¦ā¦They probably arent shooting any does or maybe only a few and they have allowed their property or properties to basically max out the doe populationā¦..So therefore they are basically spilling does outward annually looking for gaps in the landscape to fill inā¦ā¦If you take out 30 then youāve just opened up holes for them. As it is now youāve basically joined whoever those other folks are in doing the same thingā¦.. Any extra does you produce are just doing the same thing those were now and are being pressured off to somewhere else. Youāve maxed out the number of does the fawning cover and/or food resources will support without social conflict occurringā¦ā¦
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āBuy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mindā¦.well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansionā¦..Tune in, freak out, get beatenā....Hunter S. Thompson
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
[Re: CNC]
#4229772
11/14/24 02:18 PM
11/14/24 02:18 PM
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Posts: 8,476 Boaz,AL
CarbonClimber1
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Boaz,AL
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I aint got nothin or nowhereā¦ill just shoot what i want on public landā¦rule free and unencumbered by numbersā¦i just wanna killā¦lots and lotsā¦i dont care whichā¦just make them deadā¦if i kill 25 deer a yearā¦odds are 3 will be bucksā¦and the rest doeā¦so..that solves the problem regardless. Dont care if i kill a buckā¦just care if i killā¦we like to eat..and i need the meat
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
[Re: CarbonClimber1]
#4229776
11/14/24 02:31 PM
11/14/24 02:31 PM
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Posts: 7,137 Mobile, AL
Pwyse
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I aint got nothin or nowhereā¦ill just shoot what i want on public landā¦rule free and unencumbered by numbersā¦i just wanna killā¦lots and lotsā¦i dont care whichā¦just make them deadā¦if i kill 25 deer a yearā¦odds are 3 will be bucksā¦and the rest doeā¦so..that solves the problem regardless. Dont care if i kill a buckā¦just care if i killā¦we like to eat..and i need the meat Meat and dots. And you love both!
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
[Re: Pwyse]
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11/14/24 02:34 PM
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Posts: 17,673 Ourtown, AL
BCLC
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I aint got nothin or nowhereā¦ill just shoot what i want on public landā¦rule free and unencumbered by numbersā¦i just wanna killā¦lots and lotsā¦i dont care whichā¦just make them deadā¦if i kill 25 deer a yearā¦odds are 3 will be bucksā¦and the rest doeā¦so..that solves the problem regardless. Dont care if i kill a buckā¦just care if i killā¦we like to eat..and i need the meat Meat and dots. And you love both! CC1 is the Ellipsisā¦King! 
Weāre not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! Iām always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and donāt worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
[Re: CNC]
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11/14/24 02:53 PM
11/14/24 02:53 PM
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Posts: 8,476 Boaz,AL
CarbonClimber1
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Not my fault nobody put no limit on the dot thingys..better than commaā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦..big pauseā¦little pauseā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦..pause for sarcastic effectā¦.just fill in the blank
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
[Re: CarbonClimber1]
#4229803
11/14/24 03:30 PM
11/14/24 03:30 PM
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Posts: 17,673 Ourtown, AL
BCLC
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Iām on your team brotherā¦Iām a dot loverā¦too!
Weāre not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! Iām always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and donāt worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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