Drs choice vs patients choice, right?

I am not sure why anyone and I mean anyone thinks they have a choice to take a life before that life has a chance to be born? None of Us that are alive as We speak had a choice, It was God’s decision to allow each and every one of Us to live this thing We call life as We know it. To end a life by Human hands before that life has a chance to be born is absolutely against God’s will and the only way another Human would make a decision to abort an unborn child is through a Godless decision.

Here ya go. The fight is against the worldly

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HecHxHsInAQ

Yep, the problem lies in that this is even a debatable issue. Like I said in another post in this thread- To compromise with these people is where the problem lies. Our Faith as a whole has wavered and IMO that is why We are dealing with issues such as abortion with Roots from the depths of Hell and Gay marriage. To compromise on issues such as this is wrong and against what God’s word instructs Us to follow.

They call the ones against abortion pro life so if they are for it then they are Prodeath.

I think you are answering the question I asked you here.

Abortion would be the patient’s choice.

DNR would be the patient’s choice.

If the Doctor could not perform an abortion that would save the mother’s life because the abortion is illegal (which is the situation you were saying the doctor should have done the abortion anyways) I would say that choice was made by the government. Since it is morally wrong to break the law.

I don’t know how I feel about a doctor not breaking the law to save a patient when saving the patient means killing the baby.

I reckon it would be kinda like you driving your child to the hospital when they had a bad bicycle wreck and their head is busted. Do you obey the law or get there as fast as you possibly can? I can save this womans life or i can do what this piece of paper says, what do i do. Our country has gotten to a pretty pathetic place when that decision would even need to be considered.

You do realize that in the situation we are talking about, saving the woman’s life meant killing a child right?

I’ve never thought women liked each other a whole heck of a lot to begin with. The stars have to completely align for them to be able to live together for more than a semester at a time. The vast majority of the abortions that are taking place are because the baby is perceived to be an inconvenience for the “mother.” A medical doctor shouldn’t be in the business of killing babies. It’s a big evil business that’s going on. There shouldn’t be a red cent of Our tax money spent to encourage the killing of babies. It doesn’t matter if it’s legal or not, when women are encouraged to kill their babies most of the time it kills a part of their soul too.

What are you saying? Let them both die? To save the mother is the only reason i would think abortion would be ok. I dont like it then but theres no good choice

You are right there is no good choice. I don’t think letting them both die is what you do, I think you try to save both. These cases are rare for sure. Usually killing the child doesn’t save the mother’s life. The mother ends up dying anyways. I don’t believe murder is ever ok. ever. Let’s say your wife and daughter are hanging by a rope off a cliff and the only way to save your wife is to cut the rope of your daughter and let her fall to her death. What would you do? I know you well enough to know that me and you both would willingly jump off the cliff if it saved both of them or even one of them. But making a father, or a doctor, murder someone to save someone else is a very hard thing to do. Doctors take an oath to save lives, but does that oath bind them to murder as well? Is it ok to commit murder to save someone? Not self defense, not killing an intruder to protect your family, but murder. It’s a very very hard situation I know, but I don’t think murder is ok no matter what the end means are.

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I would hope these woman are Moms who see what inflation has done to their bottom lines and are pissed. If suburban Mom's are voting then Trump will win in a landslide. If it is these young cat ladies then America might be in trouble

Women's vote is SO MUCH MORE that abortion. Women care about costs of living, safety, security, stability. Sure, there are a percentage that ONLY think and vote on abortion, but they are NOT the majority.

Getting side tracked over this BS issue is why Republicans struggle. When groceries, rent, mortgage and insurance are unaffordable and you can't safely go in public without the fear of being robbed, nobody gives a damn about the abortion issue.

I am against it. Won't debate or argue it. And I promise you this, it won't be in my top 20 issues going into the voting booth either.

imo , a good economy will in its self lower abortion .

Saw a female pollster talking early voting saying Dem women votes are way down and Repub women early votes are way up at this point. Women and Blacks are gonna put DJT over the top. I believe Jews are gonna be the difference in PA.

Man, I sure hope your right.

Awww Hell so you're telling me the Suburban Mom's that have been keeping places like Dick's Sporting Goods afloat are gonna save the day?

Some talking heads are saying and I believe it’s true that Republicans turned out in record numbers for early voting. Let’s go Brandon. DJT for the win.🙏👍

But one of the pollsters for Trump says that may be a problem. They all voted early and Trump votes today will be diminished. Kinda made me think, it was on Fox so there’s that.

I hope and pray it’s a landslide for Trump.