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Re: Decline of the Wild Turkey
[Re: Frankie]
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05/11/24 06:43 PM
05/11/24 06:43 PM
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Joined: Apr 2019
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CrappieMan
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8 point
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,401
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Unless you were around in the 70s and 80s you really don't know what large turkey numbers are. What was happening back then? Trapping for money and alot of coon hunting. Oh and turkeys nested in hayfields back then also. Oh and thousands of less turkey hunters also. Interesting how we had different experiences. The 80s were our worst decade by far. It was 20 years after restocking and a whole lot of timber was clearcut and our turkey population went way down. It came back starting in the early 90s. The first coyote I saw was either 1979 or 80. I caught it in a fox set and had never seen such a critter before. It was the 90s before we started seeing them regularly. way it was where i hunted in tallapoosa , clear cutting hurt them , was great for deer though . I think that's one reason we have so many problems. Surveys being done in one part of the state and applying what's found to the whole state
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Re: Decline of the Wild Turkey
[Re: Bankheadhunter]
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05/12/24 01:31 PM
05/12/24 01:31 PM
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Posts: 12,190 Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 12,190
Sylacauga, AL
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Alabama DCNR loves bats turtles snakes frogs eagles and weird crap way more than a wild turkey. I personally think that is a huge problem. Prove me wrong.
Studies? Why keep doing them. It's predators, case closed.
Until we hunters have a agency that cares and spends our money on what we originally pay for then I see a dim future for turkeys in general.
Amen! I see similarities in the situation now with African elephants. Some of the African countries outlawed hunting them years ago. With no funds from hunters to manage and protect them, poachers soon wiped them out. There was nobody to stop them. But elephants actually increased in the countries that allowed hunting. That is now coming to an end as the geniuses who run the US FWS have decreed that we can't bring any elephant parts back to the US, and so have many European nations. The president of Botswana threatened to send Germany 20,000 elephants to roam freely over their country to see what it's like to live with them. That was a funny response, but it doesn't change the fact that African elephants are doomed to extinction, and it's not due to anything except essentially ending legal hunting of them. It will likely be a long time before turkeys go extinct in AL, but I believe their numbers will decline in direct proportion to hunting restrictions. Our land will produce a few without effort from anyone, but the numbers we all want to see come from management. Eliminate hunting and the management goes with it. The poachers will be very hard on the few that remain.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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