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Feds and police powers? How did we get here?
#4107519
03/26/24 07:58 PM
03/26/24 07:58 PM
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Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,775 Henry county
coldtrail
OP
12 point
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OP
12 point
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,775
Henry county
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How did we get to the point where we have multiple federal agencies having the authority to arrest citizens? How can the ATF, FBI, IRS have the power to lock citizens up. It's crazy when you think about how our founders intended this country be run, with strong state and and a weak central authority. I believe all these agencies need to have there power castrated.
IMO all warrants and arrest should go through the local authorities. If the ATF has an issue they should get a warrant from a local judge and the local police should serve it. It just doesn't set well with me.
"And the days that I keep my gratitude Higher than my expectations Well, I have really good days" Ray Wylie Hubbard
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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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03/26/24 08:34 PM
03/26/24 08:34 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,264 North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,264
North AL
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They should all be disbanded. THIS
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here?
[Re: jawbone]
#4107660
03/27/24 06:43 AM
03/27/24 06:43 AM
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Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 25,603 Tampa
Beer Belly
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 25,603
Tampa
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Well, Coldtrail is now on their list. Every person that posts on this website is on their list.
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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here?
[Re: Beer Belly]
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03/27/24 07:35 AM
03/27/24 07:35 AM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,155 In front of my lathe
gundoc
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,155
In front of my lathe
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Well, Coldtrail is now on their list. Every person that posts on this website is on their list. This
There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
~ unknown
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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here?
[Re: Beer Belly]
#4107678
03/27/24 07:36 AM
03/27/24 07:36 AM
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Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 7,589 Tenn
woodduck
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 7,589
Tenn
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Well, Coldtrail is now on their list. you can bet your left and right nuts Every person that posts on this website is on their list.
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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here?
[Re: daylate]
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03/27/24 07:54 AM
03/27/24 07:54 AM
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Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 1,123 Xroads
Backwards cowboy
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6 point
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Posts: 1,123
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I bet that list is pretty damn long. Some are higher on it than others
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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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03/27/24 10:15 AM
03/27/24 10:15 AM
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Posts: 22,450 blount county alabama
jwalker77
Pumpkin
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Pumpkin
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Posts: 22,450
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I am not a fan of the local sheriff either. That is a political office, and is thus, subject to corruption. Just take a look at Jefferson County, and I am not very impressed with Shelby either. There needs to be a civilian oversite board that monitors them. All with term limits to prevent corruption. "Civilian oversite", theres a novel idea. I would imagine those folks would have the highest suicide rate of anyone in the country. If not the fastest growth of wealth. Could go either way. I figure at this point the corruption is unstoppable.
Last edited by jwalker77; 03/27/24 10:15 AM.
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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here?
[Re: coldtrail]
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03/27/24 11:26 AM
03/27/24 11:26 AM
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Posts: 8,573 Chelsea
Lockjaw
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The problem is the entire system is corrupt. You get a ticket and walk into court, you are guilty until proven innocent. The cop can outright lie, and it doesn't matter. These political party people do the same thing. They all lie, and get away with it. The Bidens are busted cold on corruption, and nothing will happen. Hillary was busted cold, nothing happened. Hunter, cold busted on a federal gun charge. Think one of the Trump kids could have done that and not been swiftly prosecuted, with no deal?
The big diff is Trump has to pay to defend himself, these other folks, the system defended them on our dime. Heck the same guy who worked out the sweetheart deal for Hunter is the "independent counsel" looking into him. They purposefully let statutes of limitations expire. It's an illegal appt, and what has been done about it? ZIP.
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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here?
[Re: Beer Belly]
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03/27/24 01:49 PM
03/27/24 01:49 PM
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Posts: 26,009 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 26,009
Fayetteville TN Via Selma
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Well, Coldtrail is now on their list. Every person that posts on this website is on their list. But some are highlighted and have a file. No kidding. Be careful what you post if you don't want gov't scrutiny.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here?
[Re: coldtrail]
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03/27/24 01:55 PM
03/27/24 01:55 PM
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Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 24,883 Buc-ee’s Beach Express
leroycnbucks
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 24,883
Buc-ee’s Beach Express
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John F Kennedy was assassinated because he broke up the most powerful alphabet agency in this country.
Proud Army and ALNG veteran God Bless America!
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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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03/27/24 01:58 PM
03/27/24 01:58 PM
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Posts: 26,009 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Fayetteville TN Via Selma
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The problem is the entire system is corrupt. You get a ticket and walk into court, you are guilty until proven innocent. The cop can outright lie, and it doesn't matter.
The solution to this is to have a system where LEOs have no incentive to lie or give citations to people that didn't commit the offense. While it is true that Sheriffs are political creatures in our state, along with Judges, at least with political offices, they can be voted out. My mind has often gone to thinking about a way to remove politics from law enforcement. Sadly, that is hard to do as even nonpolitical positions are appointed by politicians who usually expect, often demand, loyalty to them and their views. Been there, done that. BTW, it cost me further promotions and titles, but I sleep well at night, at least that doesn't keep me awake.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here?
[Re: jawbone]
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03/31/24 11:41 AM
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Posts: 1,634 North Baldwin County, Al
TensawRiver
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,634
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The problem is the entire system is corrupt. You get a ticket and walk into court, you are guilty until proven innocent. The cop can outright lie, and it doesn't matter.
Been there, done that. BTW, it cost me further promotions and titles, but I sleep well at night, at least that doesn't keep me awake. Yup, been there done that, but I too sleep better and can hold my head high.
Romans 8:1-2 "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of Sin and Death"
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