A child born on a US military base in Germany would certainly be a citizen, assuming his parents are US citizens. Another situation is an illegal immigrant having a child on US soil. Is that child a US citizen, because they were born on US soil? Yet, the mother or parents were here illegally. I believe that some refer to them as "anchor babies." Babies born to non-citizen parents in a country that has birthright citizenship....think that's covered in the 14th amendment.

However, we were talking about "illegal aliens" having the 2nd amendment constitutional right to buy a firearm. They do not. You think if you went to Iran or Iraq that your constitutional rights would follow you there? Think they'd let you purchase a firearm in Afghanistan? Heck, you can't even be an Alabama resident and go to Florida to purchase a handgun. Seems like "OUR" rights are being trampled on, so why are they extending them to illegals? Furthermore, Federal Law states that illegal aliens are not able to purchase firearms. Judges can't make laws, they enforce them.....pretty plain and simple.

Moon Dog, SCOTUS long ago ruled that the term "people" in the Constitution means just that and not only citizens. Slaves were excluded as being people though. I think that one was the Dred Scott case. Since then there has been a case that gave Constitutional Rights to illegal immigrants. I can't cite the case and don't have time or desire to research. Maybe one of our local lawyers can Lexus Nexus it if they want too. When we arrested and interrogated illegals, we had to read them Miranda and afford them all the rights given to citizens.

Furthermore, the guns for illegals has already been decided by SCOTUS I believe, and this judge just chose to ignore precedent, if I'm correct.

Their last ruling may have messed up precedent though . The judge is going by that . It's gonna be interesting

By "we", do you mean everyone but you? Because "illegal alien" nor 2nd amendment was mentioned in your post.
Do I need to articulate the difference between non Us citizen and illegal alien for you as well?

So, form 4473 must be changed immediately or it is unconstitutional, according to this activist judge.

If a US citizen is in another country, living, working, stationed etc. Do they have a right to vote, in US elections?
YES, therefore. constitutional rights can extend beyond our countries borders

Like I said it's gonna cause them more problems than us . We can only gain from it.

As we all know the bad guys gonna get the guns legal or not .

I think anchor baby needs to be done away with. We have so many of these people in our country now, its going to be difficult to get them out. They are emeshed into the very fabric of our economy.

Personally I hope Trump gets elected and begins mass deportations. It should be really simple. If you are here illegally, you have 6 months to voluntarily deport. If we catch you after the 6 month self deportation time limit has expired, we will fingerprint you, photogragh you, take your DNA and then deport you, and you will not ever be allowed to enter the country again, for any reason. They will self deport.

You ever notice its cheaper to send $ to Mexico that inside the US? Wonder why?

They have more rights than we do, just like renters that don’t pay, squatters, etc.

Fox just had a segment showing that the 1968 federal law prohibits illegal alien would be denied. The Supreme Court ruling in 2022 was used for the illegal alien

Theee actions explain why wording narnchaning words by progressive liberals are so important.

Please expound on this pertaining to firearms

Considering that, how does an illegal, legally purchase a firearm? Obtain a firearm or possess a firearm.

because they have due process and until found guilty they're not felons. So in certain states they could legally buy it from an individual. I dont necessarily agree with it but thats the law.

But you have to understand the way they think, as Rush always said. They WANT more gun violence and actively try to cause it. This will not hurt them. It will only encourage more of what they desperately want. More gun violence = more ammo to outlaw guns.

Which law?
Regulation or constitutional right?


Is in interpreted or is actual law?

I see where SCOTUS upheld a previous ruling but a 1968 laws bared illegals.

That’s according to FOX this morning and their interpretation

I want to see the actual law or regulation

When the founders wrote the constitution, they obviously didn't think that the Bill of Rights applied to everyone in the world. Only Americans have full constitutional rights.
"To ourselves and our *posterity*."

I can't even fathom the level of brain-rot it takes for someone to think giving millions of illegal invaders easier access to guns is a good idea.

IMO all law is interpreted
The Fifth Amendment provides that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.1 Generally, due process guarantees protect individual rights by limiting the exercise of government power.2 The Supreme Court has held that the Fifth Amendment, which applies to federal government action, provides persons with both procedural and substantive due process guarantees. If the federal government seeks to deprive a person of a protected life, liberty, or property interest, the Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause requires that the government first provide certain procedural protections.3 Procedural due process often requires the government to provide a person with notice and an opportunity for a hearing before such a deprivation.4 In addition, the Supreme Court has interpreted the Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause to include substantive due process guarantees that protect certain fundamental constitutional rights from federal government interference, regardless of the procedures that the government follows when enforcing the law.5 Substantive due process has generally dealt with specific subject areas, such as liberty of contract, marriage, or privacy.

The Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause protects all persons within U.S. territory, including corporations,6 aliens,7 and, presumptively, citizens seeking readmission to the United States.8 However, the states are not entitled to due process protections against the federal government.9
from link https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt5-5-1/ALDE_00013721/

But theres also this supporting your position
Federal law prohibits possession of a firearm by “an alien . . . illegally or unlawfully in the United States,”[30] Federal law also prohibits possession of a firearm by “an alien . . . admitted to the United States under a non-immigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(26))),”[31] unless the person was admitted “for lawful hunting or sporting purposes or is in possession of a hunting license or permit lawfully issued in the United States,”[32] or is a foreign government official, distinguished foreign visitor, or foreign law enforcement officer under circumstances specified in 18 U.S.C. § 922(y)(2)(B), (C), or (D), or on petition receives a waiver from the Attorney General, on grounds the waiver would be in the interests of justice and would not jeopardize the public safety.[33] Federal law does not violate equal protection by penalizing noncitizens for possession of firearms.[34]



A noncitizen who has a student visa, but is out of status, is held to be an “unlawfully in the United States” for purposes of prosecution under 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5)(A),[35] even though the firearm was purchased prior to the formal adjudication of deportability.[36] Employment authorization[37] alone is not sufficient to avoid prosecution under this section.[38] The Ninth Circuit has held that physical presence in a port of entry does not satisfy the element of the crime of being illegally or unlawfully in the United States required to constitute the offense of possession of a firearm by a person “illegally or unlawfully in the United States.”[39]



Various states also prohibit possession of a firearm by certain noncitizens.[40] These offenses may or may not qualify as aggravated felonies or trigger an illegal re-entry sentence enhancement, depending upon whether the elements of the state offense coincide with the federal offense.[41]

from link https://nortontooby.com/node/17407

Its intresting, but I have run out of time to research the subject

But the more illegals that commit crimes makes them look bad .

Our laws only apply to our Citizens. Illegal Immigrants are not here legally and are not Citizens. If you are here illegally you are breaking the law no matter if you are caught with a gun.... you should be deported. Talking about a 1 way ticket to a holding pen and then after you are finger printed, mug shots and why not go head and grab a DNA sample.... next step removed from the Country by any means necessary. Breakout the chain gang... line'em up put 2 deputies with shotguns on a horse to guard them and make them walk that ass back to Mexico down the Interstate will work fine with me. Whatever it takes.

If you are caught in a crime I am not sure exactly what we should do...I know what I would do if it were up to me.... needs to be really forking bad whatever is done.

Problem Solved.

See how easy this really is? Don't even need a new law or "ruling" or anything. Just deterrence.

If Trump doesn't get elected and stop this.... it's gonna be the end of us. You can count on it. B'ham is flooded in certain neighborhoods.

If any American interprets the ABOVE as it includes Illegal Immigration then those TYPE THINKERS need a ONE WAY ticket out of the Country. Those TYPES are a DANGER to the continued existence of the Nation.

Yeah if they wasn't here to start with we wouldn't be have this discussion.