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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
#4095177
03/04/24 01:51 PM
03/04/24 01:51 PM
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abolt300
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I’m cool with non resident hunters just think they should be limited to 1 buck a year like most states This seems like the best all around solution....... Intelligence seems to be lacking in some of these suggestions. Non-residents get one buck? Arkansas will make it so that AL residents can kill one duck per season, if they can draw a license. AL residents will have to pay $10K for a texas big game license and will only be allowed to shoot does. LA will make it so that AL residents are limited to 1 speckled trout or 1 redfish per season and no oysters or shrimp will be sold to Alabama, MS will limit AL casino winnings to a maximum of $100 per weekend, and only one visit every 5 yrs. FL will limit AL residents to one fish of any kind, that meets regulations, per license per year, and AL residents will no longer be welcome at any FL beaches or Disney. No south GA quail hunts or Braves games if you possess and AL drivers license. It's not a war that AL wants to start, can win, or wants to be in. There's no upside to it. Just negatives. Here's a suggestion, how about Alabama uses a little common sense and polices their own outlaws and rule breakers, while maybe the grown men and residents in AL exercise just the tiniest little bit of trigger restraint on the basket racks, and actually enforce the laws that they already have on the books and then see where things stand.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: abolt300]
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03/04/24 01:54 PM
03/04/24 01:54 PM
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Posts: 1,400 Crenshaw
CrappieMan
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I’m cool with non resident hunters just think they should be limited to 1 buck a year like most states This seems like the best all around solution....... Intelligence seems to be lacking in some of these suggestions. Non-residents get one buck? Arkansas will make is so that AL residents can kill one duck per season, if they can draw a license. AL residents will have to pay $10K for a texas big game license and will only be allowed to shoot does. LA will make it so that AL residents are limited to 1 speckled trout or 1 redfish per season and no oysters or shrimp will be sold to Alabama, MS will limit AL casino winnings to a maximum of $100 per weekend, and only one visit every 5 yrs. FL will limit AL residents to one fish of any kind, that meets regulations, per license per year, AL residents will not longer be welcome at any FL beaches or Disney. No south GA quail hunts or Braves games if you possess and AL drivers license. It's not a war that AL wants to start, can win, or wants to be in. There's no upside to it. Just negatives. Here's a suggestion, how about Alabama uses a little common sense and polices their own outlaws and rule breakers, while maybe the grown men and residents in AL exercise just the tiniest little bit of trigger restraint on the basket racks, and actually enforce the laws that they already have on the books and then see where things stand. 👍👍
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: abolt300]
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03/04/24 02:18 PM
03/04/24 02:18 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,337 North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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I’m cool with non resident hunters just think they should be limited to 1 buck a year like most states This seems like the best all around solution....... Intelligence seems to be lacking in some of these suggestions. Non-residents get one buck? Arkansas will make it so that AL residents can kill one duck per season, if they can draw a license. AL residents will have to pay $10K for a texas big game license and will only be allowed to shoot does. LA will make it so that AL residents are limited to 1 speckled trout or 1 redfish per season and no oysters or shrimp will be sold to Alabama, MS will limit AL casino winnings to a maximum of $100 per weekend, and only one visit every 5 yrs. FL will limit AL residents to one fish of any kind, that meets regulations, per license per year, and AL residents will no longer be welcome at any FL beaches or Disney. No south GA quail hunts or Braves games if you possess and AL drivers license. It's not a war that AL wants to start, can win, or wants to be in. There's no upside to it. Just negatives. Here's a suggestion, how about Alabama uses a little common sense and polices their own outlaws and rule breakers, while maybe the grown men and residents in AL exercise just the tiniest little bit of trigger restraint on the basket racks, and actually enforce the laws that they already have on the books and then see where things stand. Drop the 🎤 ABolt.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CrappieMan]
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03/04/24 02:23 PM
03/04/24 02:23 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 22,193 Awbarn, AL
CNC
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I'm still trying to figure why you think the deer population is down. I manage 6000 acres, run pay hunts, and do taxidermy. I see no signs of a depleted Herd!! You don’t see it now but trust me you will…..I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that the guys hunting 6,000 acres will be the last ones the notice a change…… Five years from now just don’t act like nobody could see it coming when there’s a two buck limit being pushed to make up for all of it…..…..I’m sure many will be blindly cheering it on
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
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03/04/24 02:33 PM
03/04/24 02:33 PM
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Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,400 Crenshaw
CrappieMan
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I'm still trying to figure why you think the deer population is down. I manage 6000 acres, run pay hunts, and do taxidermy. I see no signs of a depleted Herd!! You don’t see it now but trust me you will…..I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that the guys hunting 6,000 acres will be the last ones the notice a change…… Five years from now just don’t act like nobody could see it coming when there’s a two buck limit being pushed to make up for all of it…..…..I’m sure many will be blindly cheering it on I've been doing this way before corn or any of your other dillusional ideas came around. It's as strong on numbers as ever just lacking in genetics in most places.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
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03/04/24 03:36 PM
03/04/24 03:36 PM
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marshmud991
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You’re going to have to do better then that!! You find one thread on a forum that matches your thoughts. From someone who hunted the Midwest when the population was booming, it was the change in the limits that lowered the numbers of deer in Missouri. They went from being able to kill 1 buck and or 2 does plus a couple bonus antlerless tags a year to unlimited antlerless tags for residents and nonresident. We saw the miles and miles of trailer loads and pick up truck loads of deer waiting to be check and dropped off at the processor by Missouri residents. At that time. It many non residents hunted the area we were in. We walked out back of the processors and saw a pile of deer like I had never seen before. It had to be 40’ round and 10’ high. It was the damnest thing I’d ever seen. The local landowners and farmers hated them. The deer/auto collisions were outrageous and the State of Missouri accomplished what they wanted with a little help from a bad case of EHD which took a big toll on the buck population in NE Missouri and NW Illinois. It took years for the buck population to rebound to decent numbers. I still have friends that still make that trip every year and they are still killing very nice bucks every year, but the population is not where it was back then but it’s still in great shape. Also have some friends that hunt across the river in Pike Co. Illinois and they still killfine bucks while bow hunting every November. Apparently the numbers are up there because the farmers want them to fill every doe tag they can. Don’t go by what you read in some forum, as most of us don’t, get real time facts from the hunters who hunt the area in question.
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It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
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03/04/24 03:44 PM
03/04/24 03:44 PM
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Posts: 22,193 Awbarn, AL
CNC
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I’ve always thought auto collision rates would be a good way of monitoring herd number trends……I didn’t realize some states actually used such until reading that…..I wonder why we don’t here?
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
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03/04/24 05:10 PM
03/04/24 05:10 PM
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Posts: 1,169 Xroads
Backwards cowboy
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I’ve always thought auto collision rates would be a good way of monitoring herd number trends……I didn’t realize some states actually used such until reading that…..I wonder why we don’t here? Every drunk who hits a mailbox at midnight turns it in as hitting a deer. Way to many people claim hitting a deer who didn't for that to be accurate. Also why insurance companies use it to say there are too many deer!
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
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03/04/24 05:13 PM
03/04/24 05:13 PM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,153 USA
marshmud991
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I’ve always thought auto collision rates would be a good way of monitoring herd number trends……I didn’t realize some states actually used such until reading that…..I wonder why we don’t here? The locals up there told us that was one of the biggest reasons for trying to lower the population. The big auto insurance groups were raising cane because of all the damages they were having to cover with deer/vehicle collisions. I could believe it with the amount of dead deer we saw on 61 north of St. Louis those first few years I started going up there. At that time I didn’t know that many deer existed in this country. I will tell you I did my part to lower the buck population. I hunted there 5 years and put a buck on the wall 5 out of the 6 years. The 6th buck surprised in a pouring rain and I kinda jumped the gun. It was still a nice 8pt but not what we really wanted to shoot.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: abolt300]
#4095376
03/04/24 08:03 PM
03/04/24 08:03 PM
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Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,356 North Birmingham
JustHunt
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I don’t think you put a limit on how many out of state licenses you sell. You boost the price up for an annual to about a grand and move on. It’s too cheap now for an annual out of state license. It's pushing $400 for an out of state now. How about we make the in-state licenses $150 each, raise the fine for hunting without a license to $2,000 and use all that extra money to actually fund the salaries of a couple hundred more GWs. I’m good with that. Since we’ve quadrupled our in state license with your scenario then we should do the same for out of state. So $1600 is where we should be for an out of state. I believe it’s fair. Only scenario I see where the out of state should be less is if you own your own property in the state.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: Buckshot77]
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03/04/24 08:08 PM
03/04/24 08:08 PM
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Posts: 1,356 North Birmingham
JustHunt
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I don’t think you put a limit on how many out of state licenses you sell. You boost the price up for an annual to about a grand and move on. It’s too cheap now for an annual out of state license. Almost $500 a year to hunt property I own? sure seems like I'm paying enough already. I think if you own the property it shouldn’t be that much. You actually pay taxes in the state. Most out of state guys don’t. They reap the benefits of our long season and do nothing other than pay a lease price
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
#4095387
03/04/24 08:23 PM
03/04/24 08:23 PM
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Posts: 3,059 Banks of Little River
JohnnyLoco
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Posts: 3,059
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I know it’s a money maker for the state but shouldn’t there be a cap on the number of out of state hunters that are allowed to come in and hunt??.....I mean, if you and I were running a hunting club would you allow there to be an unlimited amount of members and it just be about on how many memberships we could sell??.....At some point don’t you have to step back and ask the question…..”How many memberships can we actually support instead of just how many can we sell?” This is STUPID. Folks like me live out of state but were born in Bama, own more land in Bama than probably most of y’all’s whole family combined, and put much dollars into the Alabama economy. Cap my Azz !
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
#4095392
03/04/24 08:25 PM
03/04/24 08:25 PM
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Posts: 36,380 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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if you own the property you should not have to pay shucks to the state to hunt on it.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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