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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: marshmud991]
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03/04/24 10:07 AM
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Mdees
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I think Louisiana should limit out of stare fisherman and duck hunters and triple the cost of out of state licenses. Dang outa staters are catching all our fish and killing all our ducks!! Gees man, take your medicine!!! You’re getting plum anal with this crap!! I’m not sure when LA changed their permit schedule to be more reciprocal to MS, AL and FL but I remember years ago, as an AL resident it cost me $17 to fish here, about $28 to fish in MS or FL and $90 to fish in LA. An out of state all game license was about $700 also but only $400 in MS. But it looks like the prices have come down since then.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: BCLC]
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03/04/24 11:01 AM
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abolt300
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Acc’d to Google…approximately 44,000 non-resident hunting licenses per year are sold. I'd guess at least 50% or more of those, if not more, are related to the 10,000 pay to hunt places currently operating all over Alabama. You dont see many Alabama residents heading to Alabama pay to hunt operations. 3 days and gone.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: Pwyse]
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03/04/24 11:05 AM
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abolt300
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Acc’d to Google…approximately 44,000 non-resident hunting licenses per year are sold. Is that just deer? There were only 233k licenses sold for deer last year. That means that 20% of deer hunters are from out of state? If that’s true I was totally wrong. I would have guessed way under 10% So that means we only had about 190k Alabamians hunting deer last year. Most Alabama hunters dont bother following the law. Getting a hunting license is merely a recommendation for a large portion of the population. Remember, you've got only a little over half the people participating in Chuckie Check. I'd guess in-state license sales are the same way. I can hear it now. "I own the damn land and I'll be damned if I'm gonna have to buy a license to hunt my own place." Sound familiar???
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: JustHunt]
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03/04/24 11:09 AM
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abolt300
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I don’t think you put a limit on how many out of state licenses you sell. You boost the price up for an annual to about a grand and move on. It’s too cheap now for an annual out of state license. It's pushing $400 for an out of state now. How about we make the in-state licenses $150 each, raise the fine for hunting without a license to $2,000 and use all that extra money to actually fund the salaries of a couple hundred more GWs.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: Spec]
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03/04/24 11:12 AM
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So I should not be able to hunt my own property, or the surrounding land that I lease because I live in Louisiana? I already pay a ridiculous amount just on a license. Here's how I see your situation Spec. If you physically own property in AL, you should be able to get an in-state license. It's BS that you own the property and pay taxes on the property to the state of Alabama, but because your job requires you to live in another state, you're considered a non-resident.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
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03/04/24 11:25 AM
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I'm glad that the reciprocal license agreements were reached between the states. I used to pay through the nose for my out of state FL fishing license every year so that I could bass fish the FL panhandle. Same with LA and MS on both the fresh and saltwater. It's got to end somewhere. Like someone said, are the FL, GA, MS, and LA, hotels, restaurants and beaches, bars, casinos, and charter boat captains going to require you to produce a drivers license and if you're from AL they get to charge you 5X as much as they charge a local. It's honestly ridiculous CNC.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: abolt300]
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03/04/24 11:27 AM
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I don’t think you put a limit on how many out of state licenses you sell. You boost the price up for an annual to about a grand and move on. It’s too cheap now for an annual out of state license. It's pushing $400 for an out of state now. How about we make the in-state licenses $150 each, raise the fine for hunting without a license to $2,000 and use all that extra money to actually fund the salaries of a couple hundred more GWs. I love that idea
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: abolt300]
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03/04/24 11:32 AM
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Acc’d to Google…approximately 44,000 non-resident hunting licenses per year are sold. Is that just deer? There were only 233k licenses sold for deer last year. That means that 20% of deer hunters are from out of state? If that’s true I was totally wrong. I would have guessed way under 10% So that means we only had about 190k Alabamians hunting deer last year. Most Alabama hunters dont bother following the law. Getting a hunting license is merely a recommendation for a large portion of the population. Remember, you've got only a little over half the people participating in Chuckie Check. I'd guess in-state license sales are the same way. I can hear it now. "I own the damn land and I'll be damned if I'm gonna have to buy a license to hunt my own place." Sound familiar??? Abolt, I don't think you have to buy a license to hunt land you own.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
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03/04/24 11:36 AM
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no license on land you own. Over 26 years I wrote only a small number of folks for no license, I "think" most folks do actually buy a license to hunt. Fishing is another matter....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: blade]
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03/04/24 11:38 AM
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Acc’d to Google…approximately 44,000 non-resident hunting licenses per year are sold. Is that just deer? There were only 233k licenses sold for deer last year. That means that 20% of deer hunters are from out of state? If that’s true I was totally wrong. I would have guessed way under 10% So that means we only had about 190k Alabamians hunting deer last year. Most Alabama hunters dont bother following the law. Getting a hunting license is merely a recommendation for a large portion of the population. Remember, you've got only a little over half the people participating in Chuckie Check. I'd guess in-state license sales are the same way. I can hear it now. "I own the damn land and I'll be damned if I'm gonna have to buy a license to hunt my own place." Sound familiar??? Abolt, I don't think you have to buy a license to hunt land you own. You're correct. I didnt type it correctly. I was referencing my neighbor who owns a 20 acre piece that he lives on and leases another 200 adjoining it and he will tell you flat out, I live here and I'm not buying a license to hunt any of it because it is right out my back door. He refers to it all, including the leased piece, as his land.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
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03/04/24 12:23 PM
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All I’m saying is……if we decide that too many bucks are being killed then it doesn’t make that much sense to lower everyone’s bag limits if you just allow an unlimited amount of hunters to come into the state. You cant just pretend that hunter density isn’t playing a role in that….Well, you can but it doesnt make it true……Since 2018 the number of hunters has risen from 191,000 to 238,000…….How many of those you reckon have come from out of state??......Are you good with them lowering your buck limit and selling it to out of state hunters? Just something to think about when the talks start about 2 bucks
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
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03/04/24 12:33 PM
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All I’m saying is……if we decide that too many bucks are being killed then it doesn’t make that much sense to lower everyone’s bag limits if you just allow an unlimited amount of hunters to come into the state. You cant just pretend that hunter density isn’t playing a role in that….Well, you can but it doesnt make it true……Since 2018 the number of hunters has risen from 191,000 to 238,000…….How many of those you reckon have come from out of state??......Are you good with them lowering your buck limit and selling it to out of state hunters? Just something to think about when the talks start about 2 bucks I'd just shut down all the pay to hunt operations. Kill 2 birds with one stone. Almost exclusively being utilized by out of state hunters and also a bunch of young bucks being shot because if they pay their money, they expect to kill a deer. Wont happen. Want to know why? Hint......$$$$$
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
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03/04/24 12:41 PM
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To review……We’ve added 40K hunters and gave them all free for all corn…….Pretending that doesn’t have an impact is absurd in my opinion……I cant see how its going to be sustainable long term……If folks are going to try and lower the limit in the future it would be nice if it actually improved the herd versus just making up for baiting and increased hunter numbers
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: CNC]
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03/04/24 01:19 PM
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I’m surprised with all the non residents hunting Texas hasn’t depleted the buck population there especially with all the feeders that are in the state!! Not to mention, that in the history of forever, non residents have never depleted the buck population of any state. Just like here in Louisiana, very seldom will you have problems with non residents killing more deer then the law allows. Most issues are the actual residents of the state. Honest non resident hunters have way to much to lose if they screw up in another state. It can be a huge financial burden if we get caught breaking laws in other states. Limiting non residents will do nothing to help the herd. Common sense will do more to help the herd then limiting the number of hunters.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: marshmud991]
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03/04/24 01:21 PM
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I’m surprised with all the non residents hunting Texas hasn’t depleted the buck population there especially with all the feeders that are in the state!! Not to mention, that in the history of forever, non residents have never depleted the buck population of any state. Just like here in Louisiana, very seldom will you have problems with non residents killing more deer then the law allows. Most issues are the actual residents of the state. Honest non resident hunters have way to much to lose if they screw up in another state. It can be a huge financial burden if we get caught breaking laws in other states. Limiting non residents will do nothing to help the herd. Common sense will do more to help the herd then limiting the number of hunters. Nailed it.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: JustHunt]
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03/04/24 01:25 PM
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I don’t think you put a limit on how many out of state licenses you sell. You boost the price up for an annual to about a grand and move on. It’s too cheap now for an annual out of state license. Almost $500 a year to hunt property I own? sure seems like I'm paying enough already.
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: marshmud991]
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03/04/24 01:26 PM
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Not to mention, that in the history of forever, non residents have never depleted the buck population of any state. the number of hunters. Seems like the quality in Illinois really went downhill due to non-residents if I remember correctly.....Math is still math no matter how much folks try to ignore the reality of it
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Re: Out of state hunters
[Re: fromthedepths]
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03/04/24 01:34 PM
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I’m cool with non resident hunters just think they should be limited to 1 buck a year like most states This seems like the best all around solution.......
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