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by Big Game Hunter. 06/04/24 09:19 PM
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by AustinC. 05/21/24 05:01 PM
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Re: The joys of work
[Re: AU7MM08]
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02/17/24 10:34 AM
02/17/24 10:34 AM
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Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,368 Lee County
RCHRR
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Welcome to sales… lol. You work for the Company… Yep I’m an ass. I’ve been Union and Company. The big man’s gonna use you.
Last edited by RCHRR; 02/17/24 10:36 AM.
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Re: The joys of work
[Re: AU7MM08]
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02/17/24 11:00 AM
02/17/24 11:00 AM
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Posts: 10,420 Scottsboro, Al
jbatey1
Lucky Bastage
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At a previous company, the owner set a sales goal. He included some very very good incentives, they were tiered up to a level that he felt we couldn’t achieve.
What did our department do as a team? Completely blow away his goals, earned the largest bonus which also led him to the greatest level of income for that product.
He was pissed that he had to pay such large bonuses and more of less dog cussed the team for achieving the unrealistic goals.
From that point on, I didn’t give many phucks about his company. Yup instead of celebrating the success and taking the crew out for a nice dinner, he completely disenfranchised the crew. Celebrating success should be a line item on a company budget. I’m not talking about participation trophies but hitting goals should be recognized The old way of running a business (expecting highly driven and high performing employees to put up with all of the BS) isn’t going to fly now a days. Younger gens will put up with some BS, but they won’t be force fed it. They’ll just leave and start their own successful company and implement the technologies and treatment that their peers want or they’ll bounce until they find a company who appreciates them.
The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
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Re: The joys of work
[Re: Wapiti55]
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02/17/24 12:27 PM
02/17/24 12:27 PM
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Posts: 7,951 north Alabama
biglmbass
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If your mind is set on advancing , I’d move on. Things probably won’t improve there. If it’s a relatively good gig in the big picture and you can see retirement on the horizon then it may make sense to put up with it. Otherwise I’d be looking for my next opportunity. This…. though I’m thinking OP is a younger guy & not close at all to retirement age. Will say I get sick & tired of my coworkers bitching about how bad our company is & they always are threatening to leave. Some, many of ‘em won’t be happy anywhere. (Last two sentences not directed at original poster) Be looking for a better gig. Have a timeline. If things don’t improve in 3 months, 6 months, whatever, I’m gone.
The left lane is for the the purpose of moving the flow of traffic forward regardless of the speed limit. If your impeding the flow of traffic get your ass in the right lane. It's really that simple...
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Re: The joys of work
[Re: biglmbass]
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02/17/24 12:53 PM
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If your mind is set on advancing , I’d move on. Things probably won’t improve there. If it’s a relatively good gig in the big picture and you can see retirement on the horizon then it may make sense to put up with it. Otherwise I’d be looking for my next opportunity. This…. though I’m thinking OP is a younger guy & not close at all to retirement age. Will say I get sick & tired of my coworkers bitching about how bad our company is & they always are threatening to leave. Some, many of ‘em won’t be happy anywhere. (Last two sentences not directed at original poster) Be looking for a better gig. Have a timeline. If things don’t improve in 3 months, 6 months, whatever, I’m gone. I’ll be turning 33 in July, retirement is at best 20+years off.
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Re: The joys of work
[Re: AU7MM08]
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02/17/24 01:04 PM
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Posts: 64,900 Luverne, AL
Skinny
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If your mind is set on advancing , I’d move on. Things probably won’t improve there. If it’s a relatively good gig in the big picture and you can see retirement on the horizon then it may make sense to put up with it. Otherwise I’d be looking for my next opportunity. This…. though I’m thinking OP is a younger guy & not close at all to retirement age. Will say I get sick & tired of my coworkers bitching about how bad our company is & they always are threatening to leave. Some, many of ‘em won’t be happy anywhere. (Last two sentences not directed at original poster) Be looking for a better gig. Have a timeline. If things don’t improve in 3 months, 6 months, whatever, I’m gone. I’ll be turning 33 in July, retirement is at best 20+years off. 33? Oh heck, move on before something happens that keeps you locked in. Trust us old folks on that advice. You can get trapped in a job you don't like just because any number of things can happen that you have no control over.
Never Trust Government
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: The joys of work
[Re: TDog93]
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02/17/24 02:44 PM
02/17/24 02:44 PM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 39,465 Marshall County
FurFlyin
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Marshall County
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Fur - we are extremely competent technically - we hav saved the customer $millions and i work my a** off - even go in on weekends - call out at night to check on and double check everything - but most dont do that
But uea the younger generation will let and are starting to let everything go to hell-n-a-handbasket What do you sell, because if it's anything that I use in either business, you just got your foot in the door. Actually, you just got both feet in the door. I told a perspective vendor this week, that they held my checkbook in their hand. I still held the pen. If they can do what they promise me that they can, at the prices they think they can do, then they get the pen and checkbook. I'm basically begging for competent vendors.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: The joys of work
[Re: Ol’Tom]
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02/17/24 02:46 PM
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FurFlyin
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If you Iike doing what you do, take your knowledge and skills to a competitor. Man if you’re exceeding quota, some competitor is looking for you. Corporations never appreciate you until you’re gone and take “your” customers with you. If you think it’s time for a change, it is. Yep. I do a lot of buying, and for a redneck from Marshall county, I do mean a lot. At the end of the day, people buy from people. If you have customer relationships built, as a salesman SHOULD, then leave and take your customers to the new company.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: The joys of work
[Re: Skinny]
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02/17/24 06:32 PM
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donia
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….move on before something happens that keeps you locked in. Trust us old folks on that advice. You can get trapped in a job you don't like just because any number of things can happen that you have no control over. Thread winner! Shut it down…Guvna has spoken wisdom in truth.
experience is a freakin' awesome teacher....
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Re: The joys of work
[Re: AU7MM08]
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02/17/24 07:15 PM
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Posts: 9,989 Hampton Cove
foldemup
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My wife is in pharma sales and does extremely well, but she is constantly getting screwed over by quotas changing, then drug coverage changing, then no product available to the public, and even had her bonus capped at a certain number way below what she was due to receive. She gets offered jobs all the time, but usually would require a territory change that would require too much travel for a mom of 3
Last edited by foldemup; 02/17/24 07:18 PM.
If you want to always win, never play anyone better than you!
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Re: The joys of work
[Re: AU7MM08]
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02/17/24 07:30 PM
02/17/24 07:30 PM
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Posts: 25,203 Guntersville, AL
IDOT
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That's the thing about sales, your goals and targets are always changing...ALWAYS. Your reward for hitting goal, will be figuring out how to grow 20% the next year to hit your next goal. It's going to be like that every where you go. I've been fortunate in that the current company I work for I'm surrounded by people that I not only like working with but I also care about their well being as well. It makes traveling, spending time away from home and overcoming those lofty sales goals much easier to deal with. If your in an environment that is toxic and everyone around you makes it more toxic, it's time to leave. That being said, if you're in a place that you like the people you work with and it's in an industry that you can grow in, money isn't always the end all as long as your comfortable with what you're making. Eventually, you'll get to a point that instead of looking for jobs, prior co-workers or bosses that have moved on will reach out to you with new opportunities.
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: The joys of work
[Re: FurFlyin]
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02/17/24 08:13 PM
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Posts: 223 Madison County
4Tigers
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If they can do what they promise me that they can, at the prices they think they can do, then they get the pen and checkbook. I'm basically begging for competent vendors.
This right here. The last couple of weeks and the next few weeks will be more chaotic than they would have been if one of our vendors had done that. At the same time in another area, we got an opportunity to fix someone else’s uh oh for a customer and went out of our way to do so. Without good people working for you and good vendors supporting you work is much harder. If we could make everything sales could bring in the door I’d be tickled to pay them their commission. Sales is the life blood of a company. In our business though, some of it anyway, the sales staff could easily sell more than we could possibly do which wouldn’t be good for the company or customer. The opportunities have to be managed. AU7MM08- good luck finding your next gig. Seems like the big boss there doesn’t know what he’s got.
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Re: The joys of work
[Re: 4Tigers]
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02/17/24 08:15 PM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 39,465 Marshall County
FurFlyin
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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If they can do what they promise me that they can, at the prices they think they can do, then they get the pen and checkbook. I'm basically begging for competent vendors.
This right here. The last couple of weeks and the next few weeks will be more chaotic than they would have been if one of our vendors had done that. At the same time in another area, we got an opportunity to fix someone else’s uh oh for a customer and went out of our way to do so. Without good people working for you and good vendors supporting you work is much harder. If we could make everything sales could bring in the door I’d be tickled to pay them their commission. Sales is the life blood of a company. In our business though, some of it anyway, the sales staff could easily sell more than we could possibly do which wouldn’t be good for the company or customer. The opportunities have to be managed. AU7MM08- good luck finding your next gig. Seems like the big boss there doesn’t know what he’s got. If salesmen are doing their job properly, they don't cost the company a dime, they make the company a dollar.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: The joys of work
[Re: AU7MM08]
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02/17/24 08:48 PM
02/17/24 08:48 PM
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TDog93
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Salesman are why the very large company i work for stays open for business - we drive/grow the company - why the doors are open
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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