After reading this, i couldnt remember him talking much about Jesus either. I googled it. He does say Jesus is the only way to God. Theres an interview with oprah, and i personally despise her, but he tells oprah Jesus is the only way and he also says homosexuality is a sin, according to the bible. I enjoy hearing Joel Olsteen. Hes a pretty good inspirational speaker. But ive always thought his message would be more for someone who is already a christian. Ive never heard much out of him that would lead a lost person to salvation. Im a little different than most though, i try not to look for the differences or the way to be against the other christian. I try not to dwell on the differences. I believe youll fid something you dont agree with in just about every message any preacher preaches. Theres certainly many different styles of preaching, you wont like all of them. But i can generally find some good in all of them and i try to focus on that part.

I agree. judge and you will be judged

I agree. judge and you will be judged

Are yousaying if a homosexual gets saved they wont go to heaven? Or do you think getting saved makes a homosexual suddenly go straight? He said hohosexuality is a sin, just like other sins. That is the truth. Do you believe that if a hoosexual gets saved and does his/her best to fight that temptation but fails at some time, hee/she then loses their salvation? What about a drug addict? Same question. What about a normal old sex addict? Same question. They get saved and fight the good fight but slip up, are they excluded from heaven then? And every different person s life who finds Jesus took a different path. Theres no problem there. There were quite a few different paths to Jesus in the bible, one man found him sitting in a tree, a woman at a well, one man was loewred through the roof of a house, one man didnt come at all, his master went and the Lord healed the man just because of his masters faith.

Are yousaying if a homosexual gets saved they wont go to heaven? Or do you think getting saved makes a homosexual suddenly go straight? He said hohosexuality is a sin, just like other sins. That is the truth. Do you believe that if a hoosexual gets saved and does his/her best to fight that temptation but fails at some time, hee/she then loses their salvation? What about a drug addict? Same question. What about a normal old sex addict? Same question. They get saved and fight the good fight but slip up, are they excluded from heaven then? And every different person s life who finds Jesus took a different path. Theres no problem there. There were quite a few different paths to Jesus in the bible, one man found him sitting in a tree, a woman at a well, one man was loewred through the roof of a house, one man didnt come at all, his master went and the Lord healed the man just because of his masters faith.

Are yousaying if a homosexual gets saved they wont go to heaven? Or do you think getting saved makes a homosexual suddenly go straight? He said hohosexuality is a sin, just like other sins. That is the truth. Do you believe that if a hoosexual gets saved and does his/her best to fight that temptation but fails at some time, hee/she then loses their salvation? What about a drug addict? Same question. What about a normal old sex addict? Same question. They get saved and fight the good fight but slip up, are they excluded from heaven then? And every different person s life who finds Jesus took a different path. Theres no problem there. There were quite a few different paths to Jesus in the bible, one man found him sitting in a tree, a woman at a well, one man was loewred through the roof of a house, one man didnt come at all, his master went and the Lord healed the man just because of his masters faith.

If someone is living an ONGOING, UNREPENTANT LIFESTYLE of sin, they are not born-again. Salvation involves a turning away from sin. "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature. The old has passed and the new has come." - 2 Corinthians 5:17. Sure, we will still sin, yet less and less, but when we do, we run to the Lord in repentance.

There is only ONE path to God, not many, and that is through Jesus Christ (John 14:6). I've never seen any Pastor waffle on such easy questions to answer. The examples you gave are valid, but Osteen was very vague and left a lot of ambiguity in implying that a Muslim, a Hindu, etc. can go to heaven.

Im not saying Joel Osteen is any kind of great man or anything like that. I could say alot bad about him, i reckon, but i wont. I said i enjoy listen ing to him, and i do. I find his sermons uplifting. I will say this though, in America, if youre famous, theres always someone there with a camera looking for a mistake they can exploit. I praise God im not famous. I dont even feel worthy to go sit in Gods house on sunday morning and worship him. If yall folloewd me around, i promise youd see some flaws. Ill leave judgement for God. And i understand the scriptures Mark mentioned. If asked or if instructed by Gd, i will tell the truth, and have. But i will also do my best to love my neighbors and theyre all sinners.

Im not saying Joel Osteen is any kind of great man or anything like that. I could say alot bad about him, i reckon, but i wont. I said i enjoy listen ing to him, and i do. I find his sermons uplifting. I will say this though, in America, if youre famous, theres always someone there with a camera looking for a mistake they can exploit. I praise God im not famous. I dont even feel worthy to go sit in Gods house on sunday morning and worship him. If yall folloewd me around, i promise youd see some flaws. Ill leave judgement for God. And i understand the scriptures Mark mentioned. If asked or if instructed by Gd, i will tell the truth, and have. But i will also do my best to love my neighbors and theyre all sinners.

JWalker, I respect you and I think you try and live out what you say you believe. Sermons should not simply be for uplifting. Unfortunately, too many are. Sermons should not be about us and what we can get out of it. It's not OUR story, but HIS story. Every sermon should diminish us and proclaim Jesus Christ and lead us to "repent and believe the Gospel" (Mark 1:15).

BTW, what did Osteen mean by "many paths"? He didn't specify.

Well, were starting to get on the same page, i dont know if what hes doing is preaching at all. The word "preach" by definition is to make a declaration. I dont know if hes doing that most of the time, not declaring Jesus anyhow. But i do enjoy listening to him, then again i am a saved person and im fairly grounded in what i believe. I have no idea about his financial matters, or any of the other faults people hold against him. If im flipping through channels and hes on one, sometimes i stop and listen and i enjoy it, same with TD Jakes, Creflo Dollar and half a dozen others. I listen to what they say, measure against the word of God and try to use the good out of each. But like i said, theres usually a little bit in each i dont agree with 100%. Dont think im trying to lift Osteen up or say hes a great example, im not. I enjoy listening to him. Thats it.

Look into TD Jakes. He doesn't believe in the Trinity. He believes in something different called "modalism". He also says, "LGBT’s of different types and sorts have to find a place of worship that reflects what your views are and what you believe like anyone else,". https://bereanresearch.org/t-d-jake...lgbt-churches-says-position-is-evolving/

Creflo Dollar is a prosperity preacher. He said, "“Jesus bled and died for us so that we can lay claim to the promise of financial prosperity."
https://bereanresearch.org/unrepentant-creflo-dollar-still-says-jesus-died-to-make-us-rich/

Big red flags with both of those guys. There are much better teachers out there.

I take two “Bibles” with me to church every Sunday.

This is one of them:

That’s slick!