We sent Boris Johnson over there to stop peace talks and continue the conflict. Maybe if the current administration would have not asserted that they wanted Ukraine to be part of NATO this would not have happened. But hey, it is what it is at this point. Meanwhile we are further in debt and the current uniparty stance is we need to send more money and aid over there all while our own national security is being compromised.

So - any country who is not a member of NATO... in the entire World... who is attacked by another country..... then it's the United States responsibility to get out on an island get involved and stop it regardless of any consequences and it's cost to the American Taxpayer.

Especially when someone else (Europe) says they are scared? We are going to fight every bully on the playground. And then we are going to declare that we are defending "Democracy" which is a complete joke in the corruption capital of the World = Ukraine.

Got it. Fish on.

We are giving civilian troops billions of dollars worth of our weaponry bought by the Taxpayers..... to shoot them at a few conscript Russian soldiers running around with unsophisticated weaponry by our standards, who are led by this alleged threat to World Peace who in reality is backed by a paper army.

They are breaking our bank accounts and using our weapons and not even fired a rocket our way. We are getting weaker daily by supporting all these wars. IMHO.

the US has no business in Ukraine. Period.

i was just curious what these so called peace talks would look like and how they compared to the 2014 peace talks.
Its pretty obvious you don't have a clue to whats going on. Civilian army, alleged threat, corruption capitol of the world, lol. Its sad watching the republican party getting played like a fiddle.
soon it'll be BUILD THAT WALL chants like its 2015, maybe with a little code pink NO MORE WARS thrown in for good measure.

not sure you understand how nato membership works, but due to the 2014 invasion by russia, UA was not eligible for nato membership

again...I refer to Trump.
"Whats the point of NATO"?
NATO was created to fend off Cold War Russia. We won the Cold War and agreed to disband NATO. Russia lived up to the terms put before them . But, NATO is still around and is still pushing for conflict with Cold War Russia which has not existed since David Hasselhoff ruled the World.

trump also armed UA and at one point said we should send more weapons to UA. I'm not sure of the "terms" you speak of, other than the one were they said they wouldn't invade UA. Seems to me russia was pushing for a fight, not nato. They (RF) have probably been involved in wars with 20 different countries since the dissolution of the USSR I'm also not aware of any agreement to disband nato. You have a source for that?

Bush Sr. and Gorbachev agreed to break up NATO once Soviet Russia was done. That was about to happen but Bush Sr's. buddy Vlad kicked Gorbachev out and Bush/Vlad agreed to a 30 year cycle of never ending wars to keep their power and economies going.
Keep in mind that Bush Sr was the former head of the CIA and Vlad was the former head of the KGB at the same time. If you do not think that they were not making deals behind the scenes then you missed 30 years.

There was no such deal made. Putin has claimed otherwise. But it didn't happen. The USSR was going down, they didn't have any bargaining power at that point.

This same midget was the star in a sissy dance video with him dressed like a beech in lingerie and high heels....

We are living in the most corrupt country in the world

I agree with everything you have said in the above post, however we never would have found any of that out if we hadn't supplied Ukraine with the weapons and training that we did so they could stand up to Russia. They would have folded like a house of cards, Russia would have taken them over in a matter of days or weeks, and then Russia, emboldened, would have been looking for the next victim and that victim would have been part of NATO, one of which we would have been contractually obligated to defend by committing US ground forces.

Surprised they haven blamed all these wars on trump since they said he would be starting them. The world is in chaos by plan right now. And our leaders are a party to the great reset or whatever you want to call it. That’s why they will do anything to keep him out this time. He out a slow down on that plan for 4 years and they can’t have that happening again.

only then, they would have another million soldiers/slaves on top of the half million (RF) dead and wounded if they wouldn't have died in battle. The Ukrainians were the brains behind soviet tech. So their MR/LR PGM (medium/ long range programmable guided missiles) tech. Hungry, Belarus and a few smaller countries are already vassal states of russia. Germany was teetering on the verge as well. What countries couldn't be bought with money or oil dependency would have a coup. Each domino that falls just increases the size of the horde. Look at the hotspots they was already able to light up, Israel, Yemen, Syria, Iran, plus a couple more spots. This allows other countries to step up arms production, NK, Iran, china. If NK moved on ROK, China on Taiwan and who knows where or who else. Its gonna be a mess. Thats not even considering the secondary effects like famine, interrupted trade supplies, gas and power facilities being damaged. Cyber, guerilla warfare in country, you name it.

Calling Hungary and saying Germany were vassal states of Russia is a rich comment. Wow. But nevertheless ALL that sounds like a European problem the European countries should maybe get together and try to solve. Why are we over there protecting them when they are clearly capable?

Money. They are going to let the United States pay for it. That's you and me.

See how that works.

It is always a circular argument. Those that have bought into the Democrat propaganda think Putin is the Boogeyman. Everyone can clearly sees that he is just a flea. But also a Flea that is mad about Ukraine going back to the coup we got involed in in 2014 and overthrew his pro-Russian government and then turned right around less than a couple years later talking about letting the crook in the track suit join NATO.. maybe? Just Kidding. Well, Maybe not kidding?

At some point everyone has to understand that the United States actions on the World Stage have consequences since we are involved in seemingly everything everywhere across the globe with MONEY. Listen to all this crap and realize how much money we are talking about we have given to all these countries and organizations in these places. It is astounding.

You sure about all that? Surely those Nazi scientists the US and Russia divided up after WW2 had something to do with that tech.

hungry is totally beholden to russia. Thats not even debatable. I said germany was teetering. This is also due to the energy dependency on russia. This SMO has also revealed that nato was a paper tiger as well. When alot of European countries only have 50 or less working tanks and 3 days worth of artillary stockpiled. Because they're dependent on us, its not much of a deterrent. Its funny how now putin is a flea but for the last few months you have expressed your fear of russia popping nukes. Is he a flea or does he have you occasionally have you trembling in your boots?

no doubt. But from say 1945-1991 Ukraine was the brain power of the USSR

I didn't finish that sentence. I meant to say their MR/LR PGM tech would greatly improve in the next few years if they would of been able to capture Kiev in their 3 day SMO

He is a flea with Nukes. That's a pretty dangerous flea IMO. But right now he is an unthreatened flea so we should be safe. Ukraine is going pretty well for him in reality he isn't losing by a long shot.

I guess you are ok with footing the bill for this. A lot of people don't have the ability to form their own thoughts and analyze complex fact patterns on their own.