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by AustinC. 05/21/24 05:01 PM
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
[Re: AU338MAG]
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01/24/24 01:34 AM
01/24/24 01:34 AM
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deadeye48
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out preform a 308 in you know the right data. Define outperform... Yeah I'd like to talk to his buddy's about that statement
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
[Re: deadeye48]
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01/24/24 07:41 AM
01/24/24 07:41 AM
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Posts: 34,843 Boxes Cove
2Dogs
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out preform a 308 in you know the right data. Define outperform... Yeah I'd like to talk to his buddy's about that statement X3, I'd like to listen in on that .
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
[Re: 2Dogs]
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01/24/24 08:21 AM
01/24/24 08:21 AM
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N2TRKYS
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out preform a 308 in you know the right data. Define outperform... Yeah I'd like to talk to his buddy's about that statement X3, I'd like to listen in on that . If I had to guess, they probably talking about down range velocity and wind drift. 🤷🏼♂️
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
[Re: 2Dogs]
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01/24/24 09:59 AM
01/24/24 09:59 AM
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AU338MAG
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out preform a 308 in you know the right data. Define outperform... Yeah I'd like to talk to his buddy's about that statement X3, I'd like to listen in on that . It would be a lot of ballistic gack BS. My first rifle which was my only rifle for many years was a Ruger tanger 7x57, essentially a 7 08. It WAS loaded very hot, 3000+ FPS with a 22 in barrel, which is it least 100+ FPS faster than your should push 140 gr bullets in that gun. Killed dozens of deer with that gun and it works great, but it's mainly just a safe queen these days. I finally purchased a 308 about 10 years ago and it kills great as well.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
[Re: 4Him146]
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01/24/24 12:15 PM
01/24/24 12:15 PM
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sj22
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I love the 7mm-08 but ammo can be a pain to find sometimes
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
[Re: BPI]
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01/24/24 02:16 PM
01/24/24 02:16 PM
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Goatkiller
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Women and Kids.... Yes.
Grown ass men on Aldeer... Nope.
So now a 7-08 and 308 aren't enough gun for pine goats anymore either ? Come on man y'all are on here daily crying in your Cheerios about recoil. If y'all could actually handle the .308... which is a big "if".... 1/2 y'all would we trying to shoot a 100 grain short jacket talking about it don't kick bad. FACTS are what I'm pointing out. .243 sprinkled with fairy dust kinda facts. You'll shoot your eye out with a Kids and Wimmens 7-08 but it's a dam goodun with some 140's.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
[Re: Goatkiller]
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01/24/24 03:00 PM
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Women and Kids.... Yes.
Grown ass men on Aldeer... Nope.
So now a 7-08 and 308 aren't enough gun for pine goats anymore either ? Come on man y'all are on here daily crying in your Cheerios about recoil. If y'all could actually handle the .308... which is a big "if".... 1/2 y'all would we trying to shoot a 100 grain short jacket talking about it don't kick bad. FACTS are what I'm pointing out. .243 sprinkled with fairy dust kinda facts. You'll shoot your eye out with a Kids and Wimmens 7-08 but it's a dam goodun with some 140's. Believe it or not I shoot 150's ELDX's in mine. They shoot too well to change.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
[Re: 4Him146]
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01/24/24 05:27 PM
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Have y'all ever heard of Ammoseek.com?
Hundreds of listings for 7mm-08 ammo, starting at less than $20 per box. It got scarce for a while during Covid, but we typically stack 6-10 boxes once we find a load that a particular rifle likes.
Also checked a few specific brands. 67 listings for Barnes, 123 for Nosler, 169 for Federal, and 448 for Hornady. Doesn't look very hard to find at this point.
Regarding the 6.5 creed suggestion, I was on a large ranch in South Texas a few weeks ago. They have a minimum caliber requirement of .270 or larger. I asked how serious they were about that, as I wanted to shoot a .25-06. The response was, "as long as it isn't a creedmoor, we're good. We got tired of calling a dog every time a hunter used a creedmoor."
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
[Re: UncleHuck]
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01/24/24 05:40 PM
01/24/24 05:40 PM
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Have y'all ever heard of Ammoseek.com?
Hundreds of listings for 7mm-08 ammo, starting at less than $20 per box. It got scarce for a while during Covid, but we typically stack 6-10 boxes once we find a load that a particular rifle likes.
Also checked a few specific brands. 67 listings for Barnes, 123 for Nosler, 169 for Federal, and 448 for Hornady. Doesn't look very hard to find at this point.
Regarding the 6.5 creed suggestion, I was on a large ranch in South Texas a few weeks ago. They have a minimum caliber requirement of .270 or larger. I asked how serious they were about that, as I wanted to shoot a .25-06. The response was, "as long as it isn't a creedmoor, we're good. We got tired of calling a dog every time a hunter used a creedmoor."
X2 on ammoseek. That's where I get most of my ammo.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
[Re: 4Him146]
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01/24/24 11:13 PM
01/24/24 11:13 PM
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I’m not too concerned about any differences between the 7-08 and 308… or them and 243/260/creedmoor for deer. They’re all far more than enough gun for the biggest deer in the south. I’m more concerned with folks that run their mouth far better than they can run their guns. If folks could shoot AND took decent shots, 22 hornets probably wouldn’t need tracking dogs too much. The same folks that’d fight over any 260 that’d popup for sale here, will spend all night trashing the creedmoor between sips of their bud light. It’ll kill deer just as good as any other short action chambering out there….and has more going for it than a lot of stuff. I like rifles and I like to shoot good bullets from them into the right places. I don’t sweat what caseheads say on them. I don’t walk past a heckuva rifle, just because it’s a creedmoor instead of a 308, and I wouldn’t do it for a 7-08 either. I don’t think I need a 270/06/280 or anything with a belt or magnum in the name to kill a deer. If I like the rifle, I don’t really care if it’s one of those, either. I’m not recoil shy, but suppressors or common sense mean I don’t deal with a lot of it if I don’t have to, either. Just my thoughts every time I see a thread about cartridges.
It’s damn near impossible for folks to lose a deer because of the chambering of the rifle. It’s highly possible to lose one over a bad choice in bullet or shot placement. It’s almost always the nut behind the trigger.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
[Re: ALMODUX]
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01/25/24 09:20 AM
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2Dogs
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I’m not too concerned about any differences between the 7-08 and 308… or them and 243/260/creedmoor for deer. They’re all far more than enough gun for the biggest deer in the south. I’m more concerned with folks that run their mouth far better than they can run their guns. If folks could shoot AND took decent shots, 22 hornets probably wouldn’t need tracking dogs too much. The same folks that’d fight over any 260 that’d popup for sale here, will spend all night trashing the creedmoor between sips of their bud light. It’ll kill deer just as good as any other short action chambering out there….and has more going for it than a lot of stuff. I like rifles and I like to shoot good bullets from them into the right places. I don’t sweat what caseheads say on them. I don’t walk past a heckuva rifle, just because it’s a creedmoor instead of a 308, and I wouldn’t do it for a 7-08 either. I don’t think I need a 270/06/280 or anything with a belt or magnum in the name to kill a deer. If I like the rifle, I don’t really care if it’s one of those, either. I’m not recoil shy, but suppressors or common sense mean I don’t deal with a lot of it if I don’t have to, either. Just my thoughts every time I see a thread about cartridges.
It’s damn near impossible for folks to lose a deer because of the chambering of the rifle. It’s highly possible to lose one over a bad choice in bullet or shot placement. It’s almost always the nut behind the trigger. Lota truth! When I read the first few sentences I thought , "smart ass rant ." After reading the whole post I'd label it just a "smart rant."
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
[Re: 2Dogs]
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01/25/24 09:42 AM
01/25/24 09:42 AM
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thayerp81
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out preform a 308 in you know the right data. Define outperform... Yeah I'd like to talk to his buddy's about that statement X3, I'd like to listen in on that . This is absolutely a true statement, and you don't even need any mysterious "right data" even factory ammo will quickly prove that the 7mm-8 is ballistically superior to the 308. If you take similar-weight bullets from each cartridge, the 7-08 will drop less, drift less and will retain more energy and velocity than the 308. as I said earlier though, for deer hunting in the south you will never notice the difference. both are fine cartridges.
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