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Re: The logic of creation. [Re: Bulls eye] #4069309
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My bed time also. Look up job 38: 4-7 . I ain’t nailed that one down either

Re: The logic of creation. [Re: leroycnbucks] #4069315
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Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
I don’t understand how anyone can’t have faith. For me it’s the only thing that makes me be able to sort out the world and this life.



i have lots of faith just not in god . i know a lot of people find hope and faith in god ill never say thats a bad thing but god aint necessary to have those two things .

Re: The logic of creation. [Re: Bulls eye] #4069319
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Frankie your very next breath is totally dependant on the grace of almighty God Jesus Christ.He put the breath in your lungs. He does not need you to exist but you are a contingent being that is totally dependant on Him for your very next breath. now I understand how you could make the comments you made in the deer section about having no respect for God's creation.

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Originally Posted by mathews prostaff
Frankie your very next breath is totally dependant on the grace of almighty God Jesus Christ.He put the breath in your lungs. He does not need you to exist but you are a contingent being that is totally dependant on Him for your very next breath. now I understand how you could make the comments you made in the deer section about having no respect for God's creation.




im not gonna reply . just no need too

Re: The logic of creation. [Re: Bulls eye] #4069417
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Frankie, everyone has their own beliefs and i wont disrespect yours but i sure do wish you could walk a mile in my shoes. Theres not a doubt in my mind how you feel would change. There was a time in my life i felt like God had let me down and i walked away from him, just didnt really want to have anything to do with him, i guess. I always knew he existed, just felt like he wasnt a friend of mine, i guess would be the best way to put it. And as ive said a few times before, there was another time i begged the Lord to forgive me and i gave him what was left of my life. I just wish you could have the experiences ive had since then and see the change he made in my life. I wish you could feel what i feel.

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Re: The logic of creation. [Re: Bulls eye] #4069445
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I have an honest, respectful question for those who do not believe in creation/intelligent design. What, in your opinion, is the most reasonable explanation for how everything came to be?


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Lots of questions on here . Jesus said “With god all things are possible “ ALL is a big word to me . All our questions will be answered one day if only we have faith . Thats all I need to know


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Great conversation guys. Appreciate everyone keeping it civil😁

Re: The logic of creation. [Re: Bulls eye] #4069953
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I guess the problem I have is if God is all powerful and can do all why is there a picking and choosing on who receives a percieved miracle? Is that just a consequence of being a fallen people? He only picks certain people at certain times to benefit and that's that? The price we pay for eating the Apple?


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Re: The logic of creation. [Re: trailertrash] #4069975
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Originally Posted by trailertrash
I guess the problem I have is if God is all powerful and can do all why is there a picking and choosing on who receives a percieved miracle? Is that just a consequence of being a fallen people? He only picks certain people at certain times to benefit and that's that? The price we pay for eating the Apple?


I believe it is available to every human. Jesus died for all. First you have to believe that. Thats the gateway. But even saved people have absolutely no relationship with the Lord. Alot of christians are going right on and doing whatever feels good to them. God promised eternal life and a life more abundant right here. Alot of christians bought the fire insurance but they retained ownership of their life here on earth. They do not hve a right relationship with God. In that kind of relationship, a human must submit their will to God. How do you cultivate a relationship with God? I believe you do it the same way you would anyone else. You have to know him first. You dont have a relationship with those you dont know. Talk to God, i guarentee you he will talk back, he will not ignore you. If you seek the truth, he will show it to you. Alot of people just are not willing to submit.that costs them alot of blessings. Say you dont say a word to God for months, you cuss his name on a regular basis, and do all kinds f ungodly things that feel good to you. Then you get sick one day and you ask God to heal you, the same God whos name you cuss every day. Would you really expect to see a healing? Now lets say you submit your life to God, you do everything you can to live a life that honors God. You talk to him every day, you depend on him. You get sick and ask him to heal you. Do you think you would have a better chance of divine healing in that situation? Even better than that, in a right relationship with God "All things will work together for the good of those who love the Lord, who is called according to his purpose". I could give you several examples of how a bad situation in my life worked for my good. I hope this might have answered some of your questions. If youd like to talk more about some of this stuff, i would love to have that opportunity.

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