Jawbone . Just to split hairs.... lol


The states , open bag law says . "Animals taken in alabama " wonder how'd that would work out in court if it was taken out of state

A LEO cannot stop a vehicle leaving a bar or establishment merely because the driver left said establishment. Right? Guy walks out at 1 a.m., drives off, cop stops him a mile away to check. That's illegal. They must have legitimate probable cause to stop them.

(side note -- too much bad chit gets done when the LEO makes up something for a stop, but that's a discussion for another post)

How can a GW stop a truck coming from another state just because it's (1) A truck, (2) has mud or camo or a guy in camo, (3) has a covered camper or bed cover, (4) anything OTHER THAN a visible deer, whole, or deer parts in the bed-trailer-other that clearly would be visible?

They can't. Saying, "Oh, a truck coming from Tennessee, they might have a deer so let's check" is not probable cause. It's bullchit, nothing more than a DCNR version of Stop and Frisk, which was and is unconstitutional. It's the same chit they were doing with the roadblocks down in Barbour County a few years ago, checking drivers for licenses and any deer or wildlife "just because we can."

No one will challenge it, though, because they don't have the money, willpower or a "well, it doen't matter so let's all be good conservationists!" mentality.

If they're doing this on 65 and 231, or 72 coming from Mississippi, or any other border point, why aren't they set up and stopping vehicles on Highway 5 near Brent or US 331 or I-20 near Heflin or absolutely any other road in the state? Those trucks MIGHT have a deer in them. If these checkpoints are OK to do on 65 and 231, why aren't they doing them everywhere?

A LEO cannot stop a vehicle leaving a bar or establishment merely because the driver left said establishment. Right? Guy walks out at 1 a.m., drives off, cop stops him a mile away to check. That's illegal. They must have legitimate probable cause to stop them.

(side note -- too much bad chit gets done when the LEO makes up something for a stop, but that's a discussion for another post)

How can a GW stop a truck coming from another state just because it's (1) A truck, (2) has mud or camo or a guy in camo, (3) has a covered camper or bed cover, (4) anything OTHER THAN a visible deer, whole, or deer parts in the bed-trailer-other that clearly would be visible?

They can't. Saying, "Oh, a truck coming from Tennessee, they might have a deer so let's check" is not probable cause. It's bullchit, nothing more than a DCNR version of Stop and Frisk, which was and is unconstitutional. It's the same chit they were doing with the roadblocks down in Barbour County a few years ago, checking drivers for licenses and any deer or wildlife "just because we can."

No one will challenge it, though, because they don't have the money, willpower or a "well, it doen't matter so let's all be good conservationists!" mentality.

If they're doing this on 65 and 231, or 72 coming from Mississippi, or any other border point, why aren't they set up and stopping vehicles on Highway 5 near Brent or US 331 or I-20 near Heflin or absolutely any other road in the state? Those trucks MIGHT have a deer in them. If these checkpoints are OK to do on 65 and 231, why aren't they doing them everywhere?

Has a regular LEO ever made his living going on peoples property searching for violations of the law. I would guess the community would be up in arms if this was regular practice. But, somehow we have given conservation officers the OK to approach law abiding citizens on their own property (with no evidence of breaking the law) and look into their cars and buildings, set up cameras, and walk and drive anywhere on posted property. We even had one look in our cooler without asking and made me put down a knife while I was skinning a deer ON MY OWN PLACE. It is crazy because you call aboyt trespassers and good luck getting help with that.

The problem with the open field doctrine is that they applied it across the board and it should only have been allowed for exigent circumstances where a serious crime is taking place and there isn't time to get a warrant, not the typical game law violations. The court in Tennessee did a great thing by curtailing this behavior in their game wardens but they did it based on the state constitution. Hopefully it will be upheld on appeal. Outside of the courts, the way to get this changed is thru the legislative process and that could be a tough row to hoe.

Your treatment on your own property is ridiculous. You should raise hell with your state reps.