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Re: Transporting deer across AL state lines....
[Re: tikkatony]
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01/02/24 08:18 AM
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You also cannot bring any brain matter across state lines. This wont be a problem for most folks.
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Re: Transporting deer across AL state lines....
[Re: FX4]
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01/02/24 08:50 AM
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Semo
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You also cannot bring any brain matter across state lines. This wont be a problem for most folks. I was thinking the same. 
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Re: Transporting deer across AL state lines....
[Re: BhamFred]
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01/02/24 12:40 PM
01/02/24 12:40 PM
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a LEO cannot stop a vehicle driving down the Interstate without probable cause...like seeing a deer in the bed of a truck. Otherwise not so legal. A LEO cannot stop a vehicle leaving a bar or establishment merely because the driver left said establishment. Right? Guy walks out at 1 a.m., drives off, cop stops him a mile away to check. That's illegal. They must have legitimate probable cause to stop them. (side note -- too much bad chit gets done when the LEO makes up something for a stop, but that's a discussion for another post) How can a GW stop a truck coming from another state just because it's (1) A truck, (2) has mud or camo or a guy in camo, (3) has a covered camper or bed cover, (4) anything OTHER THAN a visible deer, whole, or deer parts in the bed-trailer-other that clearly would be visible? They can't. Saying, "Oh, a truck coming from Tennessee, they might have a deer so let's check" is not probable cause. It's bullchit, nothing more than a DCNR version of Stop and Frisk, which was and is unconstitutional. It's the same chit they were doing with the roadblocks down in Barbour County a few years ago, checking drivers for licenses and any deer or wildlife "just because we can." No one will challenge it, though, because they don't have the money, willpower or a "well, it doen't matter so let's all be good conservationists!" mentality. If they're doing this on 65 and 231, or 72 coming from Mississippi, or any other border point, why aren't they set up and stopping vehicles on Highway 5 near Brent or US 331 or I-20 near Heflin or absolutely any other road in the state? Those trucks MIGHT have a deer in them. If these checkpoints are OK to do on 65 and 231, why aren't they doing them everywhere?
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Re: Transporting deer across state lines....
[Re: CNC]
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01/02/24 02:29 PM
01/02/24 02:29 PM
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I'll do them like I was gonna do the ones that was checking hunters in macon county at check points . I'd show them my DL tell them that's all they get.
Any thing else they getting sued
Yes you can search ,,,,,,,are words that never will come out of my mouth
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Re: Transporting deer across state lines....
[Re: Clem]
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01/02/24 02:49 PM
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No one will challenge it, though, because they don't have the money, willpower or a "well, it doen't matter so let's all be good conservationists!" mentality.
Its high time DCNR got bitch slapped in court on a variety of 2nd and 4th Amendment issues. Hopefully that will happen at some point soon. Many of their arbitrary regs are solely intended to permit lazy law enforcement at the expense of constitutional rights. Think about how they can supposedly search your person, vehicle or boat just because you are engaging in lawful hunting or fishing. No probable cause needed. That's BS and illegal. Think about WMA firearms "rules". Its BS that you can't have a rifle on public land during off seasons as long as you aren't using it to hunt. The 2nd Amendment is pretty clear on such infringements. In light of recent court rulings DCNR needs to be bent over by some federal judge for this crap. Of course, even if the behavior ends there will be no personal accountability for those responsible for decades of violations.
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Re: Transporting deer across AL state lines....
[Re: Semo]
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01/02/24 03:17 PM
01/02/24 03:17 PM
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Posts: 27,457 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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You also cannot bring any brain matter across state lines. This wont be a problem for most folks. I was thinking the same.  
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Transporting deer across AL state lines....
[Re: Clem]
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01/02/24 03:24 PM
01/02/24 03:24 PM
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jawbone
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a LEO cannot stop a vehicle driving down the Interstate without probable cause...like seeing a deer in the bed of a truck. Otherwise not so legal. A LEO cannot stop a vehicle leaving a bar or establishment merely because the driver left said establishment. Right? Guy walks out at 1 a.m., drives off, cop stops him a mile away to check. That's illegal. They must have legitimate probable cause to stop them. (side note -- too much bad chit gets done when the LEO makes up something for a stop, but that's a discussion for another post) How can a GW stop a truck coming from another state just because it's (1) A truck, (2) has mud or camo or a guy in camo, (3) has a covered camper or bed cover, (4) anything OTHER THAN a visible deer, whole, or deer parts in the bed-trailer-other that clearly would be visible? They can't. Saying, "Oh, a truck coming from Tennessee, they might have a deer so let's check" is not probable cause. It's bullchit, nothing more than a DCNR version of Stop and Frisk, which was and is unconstitutional. It's the same chit they were doing with the roadblocks down in Barbour County a few years ago, checking drivers for licenses and any deer or wildlife "just because we can." No one will challenge it, though, because they don't have the money, willpower or a "well, it doen't matter so let's all be good conservationists!" mentality. If they're doing this on 65 and 231, or 72 coming from Mississippi, or any other border point, why aren't they set up and stopping vehicles on Highway 5 near Brent or US 331 or I-20 near Heflin or absolutely any other road in the state? Those trucks MIGHT have a deer in them. If these checkpoints are OK to do on 65 and 231, why aren't they doing them everywhere? I can assure you that if a LEO wants to stop a vehicle, it doesn't take long to find a reason, albeit pretextual stops are not legal. I always assumed that before hunting was a State Right and a GW has the authority to search anywhere game can be hidden, you are pretty much consenting when you bought a license. Now, with hunting being a right, I'm with Clem, if challenged, the courts would shake things up. I'm not sure how Chuck and the guys are going to get around the being a right thing.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Transporting deer across AL state lines....
[Re: CNC]
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01/02/24 04:24 PM
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CNC
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Make sure to put an orange hat on the dash!
“Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson
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Re: Transporting deer across AL state lines....
[Re: tikkatony]
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01/02/24 05:22 PM
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You can bring deer across the state line if they are de-boned. You also cannot bring any brain matter across state lines. lol, It DOES NOT have to be deboned. It simply has to be free of spinal fliud and/or brain matter. I saw a guy de-boning one this past year in Idaho on a side road and asked "WHY?". The knucklehead spent about 5hrs processing a deer because his friend told him it had to be deboned lol.
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Re: Transporting deer across AL state lines....
[Re: Frankie]
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01/02/24 05:54 PM
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Semo
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GWs have no more legal rights than any other law enforcement agencies.
Im not sure that is true
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Re: Transporting deer across AL state lines....
[Re: Frankie]
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01/02/24 06:03 PM
01/02/24 06:03 PM
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Backwards cowboy
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GWs have no more legal rights than any other law enforcement agencies.
I don't know if this is true or not, but I've always heard different.
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Re: Transporting deer across AL state lines....
[Re: kodiak06]
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01/02/24 06:04 PM
01/02/24 06:04 PM
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Posts: 20,534 North AL
AU338MAG
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You can bring deer across the state line if they are de-boned. You also cannot bring any brain matter across state lines. lol, It DOES NOT have to be deboned. It simply has to be free of spinal fliud and/or brain matter. I saw a guy de-boning one this past year in Idaho on a side road and asked "WHY?". The knucklehead spent about 5hrs processing a deer because his friend told him it had to be deboned lol. Correct. Just get rid of brain and spinal matter and you're GTG.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: Transporting deer across AL state lines....
[Re: Ridge Life]
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01/02/24 07:46 PM
01/02/24 07:46 PM
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Frankie
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Pretty sure wardens are federal aren’t they? Know a guy in MS got pulled over for excessively speeding and got a DUI from a warden.. They're state , same power no less no more than . They can give tickets just like a state trooper
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Re: Transporting deer across AL state lines....
[Re: Semo]
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01/02/24 07:53 PM
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RidgeRanger
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GWs have no more legal rights than any other law enforcement agencies.
Im not sure that is true Its very true.
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Re: Transporting deer across AL state lines....
[Re: Frankie]
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01/02/24 07:55 PM
01/02/24 07:55 PM
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Backwards cowboy
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Pretty sure wardens are federal aren’t they? Know a guy in MS got pulled over for excessively speeding and got a DUI from a warden.. They're state , same power no less no more than . They can give tickets just like a state trooper Pretty sure a state trooper can't just come walking on your property looking for stuff, but a game warden can. Idk what any of them can and can't legally do, but isn't a game warden allowed to search and seize stuff other law enforcement can't.?
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