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Re: One man’s opinion [Re: robinhedd] #4015315
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I just got back from hunting in Illinois with a crossbow. For some reason I didn’t kill a buck since the crossbow all but guarantees a kill.

Re: One man’s opinion [Re: robinhedd] #4015330
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there are some crossbows that shoot slower and are less accurate than some compound bows. How exactly do you justify banning a guy from using a $300 crossbow but allow a guy to shoot a $1200 Matthews V3X with an additional $500 of equipment on it? Once we go down this route do we limit how fast a compound can shoot or what attachments you can have on a bow?

Re: One man’s opinion [Re: robinhedd] #4015335
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It is funny on this site so many talk about less govt interference but when it comes to deer regulation they’d be happy if the state seized hunting rights on someone else’s property if it meant they got a chance for a bigger buck!

Re: One man’s opinion [Re: LIOJeff] #4015336
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Originally Posted by LIOJeff
I just got back from hunting in Illinois with a crossbow. For some reason I didn’t kill a buck since the crossbow all but guarantees a kill.


Never said a crossbow guarantees a kill, but I guarantee it means too many people out running around the woods claiming to be bow hunters! No skill to even blood 🩸 trail a deer if they do shoot one. .


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Re: One man’s opinion [Re: hallb] #4015343
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Originally Posted by hallb
It is funny on this site so many talk about less govt interference but when it comes to deer regulation they’d be happy if the state seized hunting rights on someone else’s property if it meant they got a chance for a bigger buck!


Hunting turns grown men into toddlers. Grown men get extremely jealous over a deer and get upset when they can't/don't kill one.

Re: One man’s opinion [Re: robinhedd] #4015345
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Originally Posted by robinhedd
Originally Posted by LIOJeff
I just got back from hunting in Illinois with a crossbow. For some reason I didn’t kill a buck since the crossbow all but guarantees a kill.


Never said a crossbow guarantees a kill, but I guarantee it means too many people out running around the woods claiming to be bow hunters! No skill to even blood 🩸 trail a deer if they do shoot one. .


Like it or not a crossbow is a bow.

Re: One man’s opinion [Re: robinhedd] #4015347
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MBrock "The point of archery season was to allow a limited harvest opportunity. "

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The bag limit for archery is 123 deer per season (down from 240) and depredation permits are still being issued to require deer to be killed and left laying to rot.

It ain't 1940 any more, and deer season ain't about conservation any more.

Gun control ain't conservation. It's just gun control.

Re: One man’s opinion [Re: robinhedd] #4015348
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I guess you are right about government interference. But I don’t want government interference or nobody elses

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I like Marsh - i like to hunt with whats legal. I way older and dont want to climb a tree w a freaking bow now among many other logical reasons i don't use compound any more. More times than not i am on the ground now - i use to always hear that harder!!

It depends on what u want to shoot and how u manage. I never shot my bow r muzzleloader last year. Many-many-many/most years i never shoot my muzzleloader. If u wait on a mature - it gone b hard how ever u do it. I passed good deer w bow last year!! And i already took my cams down n my best spots to promote as least spook or pressure as possible

Lot of people judge heck our of other hunters. I never knew people were this way - almost comical. I thought hunters were all happy - seriously - what a blessing to be able to go! Then i got on aldeer - bunch a pissed off - jusgemental - hypocrite goobers 🤣🤣 I hunt for me and do so legally - all you haters suck it or i.e - get up on some nuts!!!!!!!! 🤣🤣


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Re: One man’s opinion [Re: robinhedd] #4015358
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Originally Posted by robinhedd
Originally Posted by LIOJeff
I just got back from hunting in Illinois with a crossbow. For some reason I didn’t kill a buck since the crossbow all but guarantees a kill.


Never said a crossbow guarantees a kill, but I guarantee it means too many people out running around the woods claiming to be bow hunters! No skill to even blood 🩸 trail a deer if they do shoot one. .


How do you gain skill in blood trailing? By practicing trailing deer, right??


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Re: One man’s opinion [Re: robinhedd] #4015360
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Originally Posted by robinhedd
Originally Posted by LIOJeff
I just got back from hunting in Illinois with a crossbow. For some reason I didn’t kill a buck since the crossbow all but guarantees a kill.


Never said a crossbow guarantees a kill, but I guarantee it means too many people out running around the woods claiming to be bow hunters! No skill to even blood 🩸 trail a deer if they do shoot one. .

There are plenty of folks running around the woods with vertical bows that shouldn't be also.

I never understood why hunting with a piece of equipment that's easier to shoot accurately was a bad thing. Seems like it may be more ethical to me. I have to guess the same things were said when compound bows came out or when everyone started scoping their rifles. Both are just mainstream now.

Re: One man’s opinion [Re: robinhedd] #4015362
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robinhedd, do you hunt from a tree stand? Is that cheating? I killed a 10 point last week in MO, with my crossbow, at 30 yards while sitting on the ground. Not in a pop up blind, just sitting in a Millennium tree seat. Just me and him and air between us. By your logic, then if you can't kill one from the ground, you shouldn't hunt.


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Re: One man’s opinion [Re: robinhedd] #4015370
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Another thing i noticed i never commented on - seems childish. I will get right to it - if u kill the turkey r deer w a gun - sling shot - spear or bow - i could give a crap. I aint 6 years old so i aint gone go - o wow - he killed it w a certain type bow 🤣🤣🤣

Hate to bust your bubble - just kill the mature - nobody - r atleast i ain't impressed on how u do it - just put him down

We just rednecks - nobody special here and your shucks still stinks even if u kill a goodun w a recurve. I use to tag out turkeys n incredibly tuff public - guess what - nobody cares are is impressed - nobody! We supposed to out smart em if we done it for 40 years
Grow up - your crap still stinks and nobody and i mean nobody is impressed how U do it! At least real mean are not - we aint in-grade school anymore


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Re: One man’s opinion [Re: robinhedd] #4015378
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I’m not against you crossbow folks, so don’t take it that way. I just question whether the added mortality will negatively impact populations over time. It adds a whole lot more folks to the woods early that used to not be out there.

Re: One man’s opinion [Re: FurFlyin] #4015380
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Originally Posted by FurFlyin
Sheesh, all this crossbow hate. I'd love to see photos of the Osage selfbows you guys built to hunt with. Ah to be young again.

🤣😂

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Matt I apologize for my rant but when you get older and have a few health issues it’s like somebody throwing salt in the wound about a crossbow. Back when they first came out my hunting buddy bought one and ask me what I thought. I told him they would be alright for a woman or a kid so I been guilty. Some of the farmers in my area are killing more than the legal harvest. Not all but some. That being said the other farmers that don’t shoot them ask us to take more this winter because they are destroying a lot of their crops and I see their point because that’s how they make their living

Re: One man’s opinion [Re: Mbrock] #4015395
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
I’m not against you crossbow folks, so don’t take it that way. I just question whether the added mortality will negatively impact populations over time. It adds a whole lot more folks to the woods early that used to not be out there.


Thats a fair point.

Re: One man’s opinion [Re: Mbrock] #4015420
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Like it or not crossbows increased harvest in some states, when they became legal, to levels several times over what regular archery hunters were taking. The point of archery season was to allow a limited harvest opportunity. It’s not so limited with 100+ yard crossbows and scoped sights. I don’t begrudge folks who are hunting with them, but I don’t agree that it should be included in the regular archery season. Just my .2 cents. And for the folks arguing over what actually constitutes archery equipment, there is no crossbow that’s on the same level as any vertical bow that has to be drawn and aimed. Period. They’re not the same. I don’t think it’s worth bickering over until it affects deer populations in a negative way. The combo of cell cams, bait and lengthened opportunities is one that gives me heartburn though.

All truth. I also believe that in portions of this state we are already seeing a negative effect on deer populations from our current regulations.

Re: One man’s opinion [Re: marshmud991] #4015435
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Originally Posted by marshmud991
I just like to hunt deer with whatever is legal!! I’m not against people hunting with crossbows but I’m not a fan of them. They are heavy, awkward to carry, loud, a PIA to cock and get ready to shoot and most budget crossbows are no more accurate then a vertical bow!! I have a couple buddies that shoot them and we always have to wait for them to go through the whole process of getting ready to make a shot when we’re out practicing!! However they don’t miss when shooting deer!!
I also have 2 inline muzzleloaders but last year I bought a .35 Whelen because it’s considered a primitive weapon here. I haven’t hunted the primitive season here with it yet but I’m sure I will one day.
I tend to stay in my lane and not concern myself with what others do as long as it’s legal.




you didnt go wrong buying the 35 whelen for what ever reason . its grown to be my favorite round

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Originally Posted by MC21
Originally Posted by robinhedd
Originally Posted by LIOJeff
I just got back from hunting in Illinois with a crossbow. For some reason I didn’t kill a buck since the crossbow all but guarantees a kill.


Never said a crossbow guarantees a kill, but I guarantee it means too many people out running around the woods claiming to be bow hunters! No skill to even blood 🩸 trail a deer if they do shoot one. .


Like it or not a crossbow is a bow.


MC21, I never said a crossbow is not a bow. I said they shouldn’t be allowed in archery season, if they’re allowed it should be in the general rifle season.


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