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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots
[Re: CNC]
#3980477
09/17/23 09:52 AM
09/17/23 09:52 AM
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Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 13,107 Montgomery, Alabama
jaredhunts
Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 13,107
Montgomery, Alabama
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I’ve tracked a lot of deer in these prairie soil areas and seen other people’s plots but I haven’t had the joy of trying to deal with it myself…..If I did though, my approach would be to try and build up a buffer layer of organic soil on top of the gumbo clay and never expose it. This is really the idea for any soil type…..Its the same thing I do with really sandy soil…..It’s the natural process for any of it. Yup. Grain drill or throw and mow will work wonders for those types of souls.
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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots
[Re: johndeere5036]
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09/22/23 03:17 PM
09/22/23 03:17 PM
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Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 76 Jackson County, AL
AUCEGRAD
spike
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spike
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 76
Jackson County, AL
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I think im done plantin food plots…corn works better anyway You can buy a LOT of corn for what seed and especially fertilizer costs these days to do plots!!
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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots
[Re: AUCEGRAD]
#3983992
09/22/23 03:41 PM
09/22/23 03:41 PM
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Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8,249 Alabama
Shaneomac2
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8,249
Alabama
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I think im done plantin food plots…corn works better anyway You can buy a LOT of corn for what seed and especially fertilizer costs these days to do plots!!
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots
[Re: Ol' Skinny]
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09/27/23 11:56 AM
09/27/23 11:56 AM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,155 USA
marshmud991
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,155
USA
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We worked up all but 1 this past weekend. We’re planning to plant the first weekend in October. They all worked up great. Need a little rain but the ground was good.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots
[Re: Ol' Skinny]
#3987561
09/28/23 10:54 AM
09/28/23 10:54 AM
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Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 401 Auburn, AL
Antlerfluke
4 point
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4 point
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 401
Auburn, AL
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I hate the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" philosophy. If that were the case, we'd be way behind in technology. I'm always open to new ideas and new ways of doing things. Anyway, I spray, wait approx a month and burn. The previous fall, I made sure the fields were disced and VERY level. After burning (you have to be smart w burning), I very lightly disc and spread seed. IF it's going to be a while before a rain, I'll lightly disc seed in (this works well if you have level soil). If it's going to rain soon, I'll cultipack the seed down. But I've also found that if you condition your soil (pH), and plant clover fairly thick, you won't have too much competition from weeds. IF you plant the clover thick enough. And oh.... that clover puts the nitrogen in the ground!!!
One day, maybe I'll have a drill and at that point, I'll NEVER disc again!!
Last edited by Antlerfluke; 09/28/23 10:56 AM.
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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots
[Re: Robert D.]
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09/28/23 01:39 PM
09/28/23 01:39 PM
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,965 Northport
Thisldu
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,965
Northport
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Yeah. True prairie (black belt) soil has a heavy clay base. You disk it too wet and it’ll gum up between the disk blades until it makes each disc gang essentially a rolling drum of wet clay. Getting it out of there after it dries could have been one of the great jobs of Hercules. Water won’t get it out, only makes it soft. Has to be dug out.
If you wait till the dirt is good and dry it’ll be so hard a good heavy disk will barely scratch it. If you FA and get a really heavy duty disc and lay off in it you’ll make softball size clods that are hard as bricks.
There is no perfect system. Rain will be either make you look like a genius or a dumb ass. Preach it
"The future's uncertain and the end is always near"
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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots
[Re: Ol' Skinny]
#3987687
09/28/23 02:38 PM
09/28/23 02:38 PM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,799 Lower AL
k bush
12 point
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12 point
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,799
Lower AL
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Spray about 4 weeks prior. Then just before a good rain making front in October, spread fertilizer. Then spread seed/lightly disk in leaving as much thatch as possible on the plot. On the plots I have the Firminator available I disk/spread/cultipack in one pass. In the past I have bush hogged the burned down plots, usually prior to planting. Now that I have a flail mower I'll run it over the plot if needed after planting. I want to minimize soil disturbance as much as possible, both to conserve moisture and organic matter.
In the past I have run a fire over plots when there was a super heavy residue layer. Then just spread seed/fertilizer and disk very lightly and follow with a cultipacker. Clover is usually applied separately from cereal grains after cultipacking and again, just before a rain.
I see no real benefit from multiple tillage passes in the fall as weed pressure is usually much lighter. I want to be very stingy with soil moisture as if I were dry land farming in the Dakota's LOL. In some years it's not necessary but years like this, it matters.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots
[Re: Nightwatchman]
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09/28/23 02:42 PM
09/28/23 02:42 PM
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Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 7,245 Free State of Winston
FreeStateHunter
They Call Me Gator 🐊
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They Call Me Gator 🐊
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 7,245
Free State of Winston
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IDK why anyone would plant plots anymore when you can achieve the same thing with a corn feeder you simply have to pull up to in your truck and fill up every 2 weeks. Dont even need a tractor, simply use a weedeater to clear out a 10'x10' area and throw a feeder up....it is less expensive than seed/diesel/fertilizer, and is less work
Also don't have to plan around weather, takes less time, not as glamorous as a pretty winter plot, but pretty much achieves the same result. I thought when it was getting passed everyone said corn and food plots is the same thing? You saying one is more difficult than the other? No….
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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots
[Re: Ol' Skinny]
#3987748
09/28/23 04:09 PM
09/28/23 04:09 PM
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Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 10,539 northport
deadeye48
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 10,539
northport
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Did it today Planting Saturday
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots
[Re: G/H]
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09/28/23 04:11 PM
09/28/23 04:11 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 22,215 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 22,215
Awbarn, AL
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I sprayed my fields last week. I’m waiting on rain, so I can spread fertilizer and seed then bush hog the fields. First time I’m trying it this way, so we will see Try not to leave wind rows.....spread the "hay" as evenly as possible
We dont rent pigs
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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots
[Re: BradB]
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10/01/23 07:42 PM
10/01/23 07:42 PM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,799 Lower AL
k bush
12 point
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12 point
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Lower AL
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I actually bottom plowed my plots this year. Probably gonna start tilling them tommorrow. Several of my plots have a really good potential for artifacts and had really really wanted to get a couple of hard rains on the furrows before knocking them down. But it does not look like that’s gonna happen. Two weeks until even a little rain chance so no hurry. X2 on the no hurry. I'm less than 30 minutes from both pieces of property I need to plant. Hope to have everything burned down and ready to go when the magic front we need rolls in with some good rain. May be another November planting the way it's looking.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots
[Re: Ol' Skinny]
#3989704
10/01/23 08:46 PM
10/01/23 08:46 PM
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Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,258 Tuscaloosa
rackhunter'
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8 point
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,258
Tuscaloosa
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Bushhogged everything 2 weeks ago, I’ll probably start tilling fields (5) total next weekend. Probably should take a dust mask, I imagine it’s not going to be ideal. Then I’ll wait and watch for rain. Several years ago when we had the drought me and guy hunting with me waited the whole month of October and never got any rain. We planted second week of November and ended up with some nice fields. All others around us had planted in September and had dirt fields all season.
The history of the bow and arrow is the history of mankind
I love animals...they're delicious
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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots
[Re: Ol' Skinny]
#3989721
10/01/23 09:04 PM
10/01/23 09:04 PM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,663 Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,663
Tuscaloosa Co.
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I planted mid September and it’s super dry. I checked them today and they’re about 4” tall. We need a good rain in a bad way.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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