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For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? #3936216
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There is a bigger push for school vouchers for school choice.

Would you be for a school voucher system for homeschooling? If it was used correctly it would be great, but it would be very abused. But would the abuse be any worse today than the crap public school system?

Would there be a way to control how the $ is used?
- special laptops that can only be used for education
- pay for internet access
- school supplies
- traveling teachers to monitor kids monthly

Drug addict parents (all races) would take their kids out of school and steal the $.




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Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: Beer Belly] #3936237
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One of the reasons we homeschool is to keep them from being forced to learn something we don't approve. In my opinion a voucher just opens the door for more monitoring, aka control. I'll pass and fund our own schooling.

Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: Beer Belly] #3936254
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I’d be for it. Would there be abuse? Yes. The extent of which would be in how they distribute and account for vouchers. If you had to show proof of purchase of a homeschool curriculum or some form of expenditure related to that voucher on your tax returns that might be one way to keep it accountable. Homeschool isn’t something I’m super familiar with when it comes to the logistics (though my wife and I have discussed this as an option to be considered later as our child approaches school age).
Frankly, most degenerate parents don’t want their kids at home with them all day. Public schools are free daycare to them, and their child’s performance is not something they really care about until it comes time for them to have to pay up for summer school or unless their kid is getting kicked out of school (that rarely happens now).

Ultimately we could partially fund school vouchers just by eliminating the federal department of education and taking their 195 billion dollar budget and dividing it amongst every student. I’d rather the states have control over the public school than have the feds controlling education.

Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: jtillery] #3936255
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Originally Posted by jtillery
One of the reasons we homeschool is to keep them from being forced to learn something we don't approve. In my opinion a voucher just opens the door for more monitoring, aka control. I'll pass and fund our own schooling.


If it were done like it should be..I would be ok with folks receiving their money for home school instead of paying the school tax.
But, I would have to agree with the above quote..I don't trust the state or Federal government to stay out of my business.
We home schooled our youngest and I don't regret it one bit.

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Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: Beer Belly] #3936266
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I’m pro school choice and vouchers

Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: Beer Belly] #3936267
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We homeschool and have noticed a drastic difference in how our boys are progressing and it allows us to control what they are exposed to. I am absolutely for it. Homeschooling isn't cheap, nor is it easy, but it's worthwhile to us.

Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: Beer Belly] #3936269
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The state should have never been involved in the education system at all. Ever.


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Originally Posted by Justice
We homeschool and have noticed a drastic difference in how our boys are progressing and it allows us to control what they are exposed to. I am absolutely for it. Homeschooling isn't cheap, nor is it easy, but it's worthwhile to us.

Fellow homeschoolers. Wouldn’t do it any other way.

Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: William] #3936281
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Originally Posted by jtillery
One of the reasons we homeschool is to keep them from being forced to learn something we don't approve. In my opinion a voucher just opens the door for more monitoring, aka control. I'll pass and fund our own schooling.

Originally Posted by William
The state should have never been involved in the education system at all. Ever.

Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: twaldrop4] #3936285
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Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Originally Posted by jtillery
One of the reasons we homeschool is to keep them from being forced to learn something we don't approve. In my opinion a voucher just opens the door for more monitoring, aka control. I'll pass and fund our own schooling.

Originally Posted by William
The state should have never been involved in the education system at all. Ever.




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Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: Beer Belly] #3936287
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I would be for me leaving them alone and they leave me alone. Ill pay the big tax on gas to pay for the roads i drive on. Other than that they dont ask me for anything and i wont ask them for anything

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Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: Beer Belly] #3936289
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I don't like the idea of giving someone money upfront. Maybe turn in your receipts, or have some way to prove your legitimate expenses before getting the money. I definitely support homeschooling and hope something can be done to help families with the cost.

Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: William] #3936299
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Originally Posted by William
The state should have never been involved in the education system at all. Ever.


The more the government gets involved the worse things get but so many people don't get that.
They should abolish the Dept of Education

Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: Beer Belly] #3936305
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The government will ruin homeschooling. Keep them out


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I am not for it. If they help pay for it, they will want a say in it.

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Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: Beer Belly] #3936327
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Originally Posted by Beer Belly
There is a bigger push for school vouchers for school choice.

Would you be for a school voucher system for homeschooling? If it was used correctly it would be great, but it would be very abused. But would the abuse be any worse today than the crap public school system?

Would there be a way to control how the $ is used?
- special laptops that can only be used for education
- pay for internet access
- school supplies
- traveling teachers to monitor kids monthly

Drug addict parents (all races) would take their kids out of school and steal the $.





I am 100% for school choice and vouchers, so parents can put their kids in private or charter schools and make sure they have a chance for a good education.

Homeschool parents cannot have it both ways. They do not want to be accountable to the State School Board, but they want the funding. My take is this - leave homeschools alone and do not provide any funding. Christian parents can raise their kids how they want without the State intervening.

Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: Beer Belly] #3936331
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We homeschooled and utilized christian schools so I am for it. It was a good choice bit extremely hard job. I'm pretty sure some kids would go uneducated if parents were just given a check.


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Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: Beer Belly] #3936333
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I see the liberals plan is working. They want you to take your kids out of school IMO.

All the poor kids who have no choice... they will be indoctrinated.


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Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: Beer Belly] #3936335
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I think it would be better to get a deduction on your income taxes after having the proof of enrollment and grades from a curriculum and any related expenses like an iPad or laptop for the remote learning, limited to only one every 3-5 years unless providing proof of it breaking before that time frame is up so folks can't just go get a new one every year just because a new one came out.


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Re: For/Against = School Voucher for Homeschooling? [Re: Beer Belly] #3936365
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Defund the public school indoctrination camps along with “Higher” education until the Constitution is a core competency requirement.


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