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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840571
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This may be it, if not it’s similar to what I watched

https://phys.org/news/2012-07-vertical-farm-abandoned-pork-food.amp


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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840576
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This guy is a trip but lives what he preaches



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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840591
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Here's the world's largest producer talking about it. They downplay the hazards, but are working on phasing it out. PFAS are coated on almost everything these days, so this is quite an ambitious project.

https://pfas.3m.com/home

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: redgineer] #3840608
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Originally Posted by redgineer
Here's the world's largest producer talking about it. They downplay the hazards, but are working on phasing it out. PFAS are coated on almost everything these days, so this is quite an ambitious project.

https://pfas.3m.com/home


Whenever you hear someone stay “stakeholders” or “collaborating” you can just go ahead and buy some Vaseline because you’re getting phucked.

Just substitute those two words for conspirators.

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840611
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Eh, we put crap in our bodies every day. I'll take a slab of fried catfish with a side of PFA tartar sauce...

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #3840787
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by Abbhudson
Originally Posted by Irishguy
I guess farm raised catfish, pond raise trout, pond raise crawfish, and basically any freshwater farmed fish would be in the same boat. (No pun intended.)


If it bioaccumulaes Maybe has something to do with their respective diets?

It’s two fold. Farm raised fish aren’t eating other fish, so bioaccumulation can’t happen. It’s also the water source. Farm raised fish aren’t getting water from rivers with chemical plants on them.


Just eating all the poop from other fish in the pond!

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: outdoors1] #3840788
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Originally Posted by outdoors1
Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by Abbhudson
Originally Posted by Irishguy
I guess farm raised catfish, pond raise trout, pond raise crawfish, and basically any freshwater farmed fish would be in the same boat. (No pun intended.)


If it bioaccumulaes Maybe has something to do with their respective diets?

It’s two fold. Farm raised fish aren’t eating other fish, so bioaccumulation can’t happen. It’s also the water source. Farm raised fish aren’t getting water from rivers with chemical plants on them.


Just eating all the poop from other fish in the pond!


Ever heard of floating feed? Farm raised catfish aren’t bottom feeders if you want to grow an on flavor fish

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840789
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How about the poop train coming from New York dumping their crap in the black belt. It can't be good with all the drugs that in poop! It stopped in B'ham and was stinking up the city. How did the poop train end up in Alabama. Follow the money trail. Stop the poop train! No dumping on Alabama!

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840790
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It’s the basa/pangasius/tria that gets passed off as catfish and sells for 1/2 what if takes to grow a fish in the states is what’s killing the us catfish industry. The problem is the foreign lobby is stronger than ours and it allows labeling all this junk as catfish. County of origin labeling is a joke and the farmers we’ve done business with for the last 30 years are getting too old to keep up the good fight

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840814
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^^Yes. Even our lil plant in town was (supposedly/allegedly) “duped” by mislabeled as catfish, Basa. They’re a packaging plant, also, so they receive bulk processed fish for individual repackaging. It was a big stink for a bit, in the catfish industry. This was around the time that source labeling started.


experience is a freakin' awesome teacher....
Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840824
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Those of you interested in protecting the rivers and our natural resources, check out your local river keepers group. Those guys do more for our rivers in a month than politicians will do in a lifetime. They are the reason that anything came of the 3m lawsuit.

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840830
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If you’re worried about tilapia eating waste water should’ve see the discharge pipe below McFarland for n Florence. From the standpipe in Sheffield you could look and see the black oily substance flowing into the river. Those fish downstream were sting eating treated sewage or byproducts. Also truck run and distribute processed sewage on farmland thruout Lauderdale county. See those trucks leaving out all the time.

Been told by some commercial fishermen that they take their catch to the same place pond raised go to be processed. Don’t know if they keep them separate or not.

If you look at labeling most allow for less than pure products.

https://www.agdaily.com/livestock/facts-about-black-angus-cattle/

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1. Details about the beef
Beef-eaters find preference in the Black Angus meat for a number of reasons related to genetics. To achieve the Certified Angus Beef brand by U.S. Department of Agriculture graders, beef must be a minimum of 51 percent black in hide, and possess a modest amount of higher-degree of marbling and medium to fine marbling texture.


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