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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840387
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
I guess farm raised catfish, pond raise trout, pond raise crawfish, and basically any freshwater farmed fish would be in the same boat. (No pun intended.)


If it bioaccumulaes Maybe has something to do with their respective diets?

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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840401
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Who funded the study? Where did the funding for those who confirmed the results come from?

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840410
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We get local news reports about fish toxicity here on pickwick and other local tributaries

Toxin levels and which fish were ok to eat etc……location of said species of fish etc….

https://www.alabamapublichealth.gov/tox/assets/al-fish-advisory-2021.pdf

I’d heard in the news about what Irish posted and wondered WTH


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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840416
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What the hell are PFA's?

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Abbhudson] #3840449
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Originally Posted by Abbhudson
Originally Posted by Irishguy
I guess farm raised catfish, pond raise trout, pond raise crawfish, and basically any freshwater farmed fish would be in the same boat. (No pun intended.)


If it bioaccumulaes Maybe has something to do with their respective diets?

It’s two fold. Farm raised fish aren’t eating other fish, so bioaccumulation can’t happen. It’s also the water source. Farm raised fish aren’t getting water from rivers with chemical plants on them.

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: whack-n-stack] #3840450
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Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
What the hell are PFA's?

Perfluoroalkyl substances. They’re forever chemicals that will never degrade or go away and cause cancer.

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840462
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I don’t dispute the results, but it wouldn’t stop me from eating fish when I wanted.

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840475
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PFA's are not good. SouthBamaSlayer is correct. He's not a researcher who was bribed, just a man who has worked in industry.

Store bought fish may have less PFA's, but there are still plenty of harmful chemicals in them. Waterways have been our toxic waste dump since the industrial revolution, it shouldn't be a surprise.

The wrapping on a lot of food items is coated with PFA's. Ever wonder why a piece of paper can be soaking wet and covered in grease without tearing, that's PFA's. There really isn't anything you can do to eliminate exposure, but reducing exposure is not a bad idea. Don't let this stop you from fishing, but don't eat too much from heavily polluted waterways. I'd probably avoid the Tennessee River directly downstream of Decatur.

I'm sure most of you don't care. Republicans love poison, unless it's a vaccine.

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840479
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Here is what happens next... a little lobbying in Washington..... then.....

I bet the Tilapia they use to clean the Poo Poo out of the waste water in China are NOT going to be the type of fish that's actually bad for you. No, No.... That's gonna be the "good" a.k.a. Healthy fish.

Now... Catfish from West, AL...... Now that's the stuff that's gonna be bad for you. Kill you dead probably.

Just guessing here.

Chicken will be "bad" for us next... but of course only ones raised in the United States.



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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840481
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Eh, I'm not going to worry about too much. I don't trust most of those peer review studies anyways.

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840485
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I can tell you that most, if not all, MS Delta catfish ponds use well water to pump up. I know of a couple in East MS that had pumping permits for Catalpa Creek, but most use wells.
Funny you mentioned Isola (or even know where it is!), as that’s where I grew up on a row crop and catfish farm.

*well now it says West AL instead of Isola, MS*

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experience is a freakin' awesome teacher....
Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840498
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Because of its resistance to low oxygen concentrations, the farmed fish is sometimes used as a first step in treating wastewater. The mild, white meat of the tilapia fish, along with its low fat content and high protein, vitamin, and mineral content, has made it an increasingly common food choice globally.Sep 2, 2020



Dirty jobs had a segment on tilapia and waste water treatment facilities


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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840504
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My next business venture is gonna be “rainwater farmed catfish and crawfish”

Like free range chicken eggs.

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This is why I eat my fish from China. nothing but chemical plants around me so it's took the fun out of fishing.

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Irishguy] #3840509
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Years ago being told by some guys that worked in one of those plants that they released chemical waste in the early hours of the morning so it would be diluted by daybreak kinda was disturbing.


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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: cartervj] #3840516
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Originally Posted by cartervj
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do they use tilapia to clean wastewater?
Because of its resistance to low oxygen concentrations, the farmed fish is sometimes used as a first step in treating wastewater. The mild, white meat of the tilapia fish, along with its low fat content and high protein, vitamin, and mineral content, has made it an increasingly common food choice globally.Sep 2, 2020



Dirty jobs had a segment on tilapia and waste water treatment facilities


Wow - I had no idea. My wife and I love tilapia (pretty inexpensive frozen filet variety) fish tacos - probably eat them once every couple of weeks. We may have to change fish.


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Originally Posted by Hunting-231
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do they use tilapia to clean wastewater?
Because of its resistance to low oxygen concentrations, the farmed fish is sometimes used as a first step in treating wastewater. The mild, white meat of the tilapia fish, along with its low fat content and high protein, vitamin, and mineral content, has made it an increasingly common food choice globally.Sep 2, 2020



Dirty jobs had a segment on tilapia and waste water treatment facilities


Wow - I had no idea. My wife and I love tilapia (pretty inexpensive frozen filet variety) fish tacos - probably eat them once every couple of weeks. We may have to change fish.

You didn’t know tilapia were chit eaters? I thought that was common knowledge.

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: daylate] #3840563
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It will not stop until we are all government mandated vegans riding in public electric buses for transportation.

That’s the plan in a nutshell. And the damn republicans have allowed them to pretty much be within site of their ultimate goal. They not even hiding it anymore

Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: Hunting-231] #3840567
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Originally Posted by Hunting-231
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do they use tilapia to clean wastewater?
Because of its resistance to low oxygen concentrations, the farmed fish is sometimes used as a first step in treating wastewater. The mild, white meat of the tilapia fish, along with its low fat content and high protein, vitamin, and mineral content, has made it an increasingly common food choice globally.Sep 2, 2020



Dirty jobs had a segment on tilapia and waste water treatment facilities


Wow - I had no idea. My wife and I love tilapia (pretty inexpensive frozen filet variety) fish tacos - probably eat them once every couple of weeks. We may have to change fish.


It’s why I stop if I see it available

Truthfully they are farmed in closed loop systems where their poop fertilizes the aquaponic plants and then they feed off the plants.
There was a special where Toyota sponsors a 3 story factory that grew farm to table type foods to restaurants in Chicago. Very interesting exposé for a few hours. It was more detailed than what I described. They were showing alternatives to land based farming


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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now... [Re: donia] #3840568
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Originally Posted by donia
I can tell you that most, if not all, MS Delta catfish ponds use well water to pump up. I know of a couple in East MS that had pumping permits for Catalpa Creek, but most use wells.
Funny you mentioned Isola (or even know where it is!), as that’s where I grew up on a row crop and catfish farm.

*well now it says West AL instead of Isola, MS*


While I was driving to Birmingham this morning my buddy and I were talking over the phone about this very thing. Filled with well water... We both love us some farm raised catfish.


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