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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: Irishguy]
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01/18/23 08:17 AM
01/18/23 08:17 AM
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Mobile, AL
SouthBamaSlayer
Gary's Fluffer
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Gary's Fluffer
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Mobile, AL
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PFAS levels are becoming an issue. We've sent samples off and got them tested before. I had posted on here before about people spreading chicken plant sludge and biosolids as fertilizer. (Not chicken litter) We've tested fields where it was spread and the numbers are through the roof. All that is running off into every creek and river around it. I posted here trying to bring awareness and some people jumped on me because the farmer should be able to do what every they want. (I highly support farmers, just not this practice). I buy as much as i can from local farmers. The big industries use this as a free dump for the materials instead of paying landfill fees. 3M just settled a large lawsuit for land applying waste with known high levels of PFAS.
All that being said, I wouldn't put all my faith into one article. I definitely think it matters where the fish come from. Some areas are worse than others and some will surprise you. Tellico lake in Tennessee has some high restrictions. I wouldn't eat any that comes from down river of 3M. Agreed about where the fish comes from. I wouldn't think twice about eating fish that came from Little River up here near the cabin. It makes you wonder about PFES levels in oysters a little bit since they are water filtering. You couldn’t put enough PFAS in the ocean to make a difference if you tried. Dilution is the solution.
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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
#3840068
01/18/23 08:37 AM
01/18/23 08:37 AM
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Lickskillet, AL
Irishguy
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a.k.a. Dingle Johnson
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a.k.a. Dingle Johnson
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 23,196
Lickskillet, AL
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It makes you wonder about PFES levels in oysters a little bit since they are water filtering.
You couldn’t put enough PFAS in the ocean to make a difference if you tried. Dilution is the solution. I agree about ocean fish in general, but don't oysters primarily grow in river estuaries?
Libertarian, Pro Life, Isolationist...
Let people be free, let people live, leave other countries alone.
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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: AU338MAG]
#3840087
01/18/23 09:02 AM
01/18/23 09:02 AM
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Posts: 8,405
Tenn
woodduck
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Tenn
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Probably funded by the same people who told us gas stoves are dangerous. My guess. And that’s the same ones planning on us eating plant and insect based foods they have grown in a lab. Bill Gates didn’t buy all that farmland for nothing. Give me a a tombigbee catfish or a bass caught from the local creek over anything those fks reccomend. Follow the money. The world has reached the point where the majority of populations have bought in to the BS that’s been preached now for the last 30 years. It’s about ramp if fast. Hold on to your hat
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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: Irishguy]
#3840089
01/18/23 09:02 AM
01/18/23 09:02 AM
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Posts: 14,369
Mobile, AL
SouthBamaSlayer
Gary's Fluffer
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Gary's Fluffer
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It makes you wonder about PFES levels in oysters a little bit since they are water filtering.
You couldn’t put enough PFAS in the ocean to make a difference if you tried. Dilution is the solution. I agree about ocean fish in general, but don't oysters primarily grow in river estuaries? No, they require a decent amount of saltwater and typically grow around Dauphin Island type locations where you’re going to get a lot of water fluctuation and replacement with the tides.
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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: Irishguy]
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01/18/23 10:09 AM
01/18/23 10:09 AM
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Chelsea
Lockjaw
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When I see stories like this it makes me wonder if they are just a catch and release nut.
My wife while she was pregnant had a lady tell her not to eat deer meat.
I am fully convinced she just was against the killing of animals and never did find out a real reason other than the meat wasn't regulated by FDA.
So silly Well... In all fairness you are comparing "had a lady tell her" with a multi-year, peer reviewed scientific study done by Duke University. You do have a point about the last part... How are the fish even alive? Duke university took in over 800 BILLION in 2020 from governement sources according to their audit. You also realize you can get a peer review of almost any scientific study that will back your assertion? Peer review for me is about as useful as a democrat fact checker.
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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: Irishguy]
#3840159
01/18/23 10:21 AM
01/18/23 10:21 AM
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miss'ippi state
donia
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miss'ippi state
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Growing up, we never bass fished in the MS Delta. Too much chemical run-off…come to think of it, I don’t remember any bass ponds in the Delta, at the time. Practices have changed on the soil conservation side and a lot of the chemicals are filtered through buffer strips, etc before reaching the waterways and water bodies.
Had a buddy move to the Delta for work and grew up fishing in east MS. Was fishing the Sunflower River and rinsed his hand off in the river to get a dip…spit it back out because of the strong chemical taste (from rinsing his hand in the river). That’s when he figured out what I had always told him about being selective about where he kept fish from.
Last edited by donia; 01/18/23 10:47 AM.
experience is a freakin' awesome teacher....
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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: Irishguy]
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01/18/23 11:16 AM
01/18/23 11:16 AM
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Lee Co., AL
Pocosin
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Lee Co., AL
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ADPH has an online guide that lists fish consumption advisories in the state located here: https://www.alabamapublichealth.gov/tox/assets/al-fish-advisory-2022.pdfMercury appears to be the big concern for them. No mention of PFAS, though. Problem is, PFAS can be everywhere -- air, soil, water, etc. Think about where all that stuff has been historically applied: textiles, cooking/kitchen items, household products -- basically everywhere. I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, and I have eaten plenty freshwater fish, but bottom line is, we've got to take better care of our waterways. These persistent chemicals/compounds are a problem. And look, I'd much rather eat some freshwater Alabama fish than something farmed in Thailand or China or wherever.
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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: Irishguy]
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01/18/23 11:26 AM
01/18/23 11:26 AM
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TurkeyJoe
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I don’t care how many phds you get to sign the study, I’ll never believe that some flash frozen plastic wrapped fish from Sam’s is healthier than a fresh mess of Tensaw river crappie. If I’m wrong, I reckon I’ll just go to heaven ignorant of the subject.
Micah 6:8
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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: TurkeyJoe]
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01/18/23 11:36 AM
01/18/23 11:36 AM
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Mobile, AL
Mdees
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Mobile, AL
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I don’t care how many phds you get to sign the study, I’ll never believe that some flash frozen plastic wrapped fish from Sam’s is healthier than a fresh mess of Tensaw river crappie. If I’m wrong, I reckon I’ll just go to heaven ignorant of the subject. We are all going to die of something and we may as well enjoy catching and eating our own fish rather than buy similarly poisoned crap from abroad.
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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: Irishguy]
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01/18/23 11:39 AM
01/18/23 11:39 AM
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Goatkiller
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I thought what's good for you now.... is cockroaches and some kind of ant paste you spread on white bread, right?
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: Irishguy]
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01/18/23 11:48 AM
01/18/23 11:48 AM
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Posts: 27,457
Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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I guess my wife can start planning my funeral because I ate about three servings of Crappie last night. Some fried and some baked for the health conscience partakers. It was good too.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: Pocosin]
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01/18/23 11:53 AM
01/18/23 11:53 AM
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Posts: 3,161
NOALA
RidgeRanger
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ADPH has an online guide that lists fish consumption advisories in the state located here: https://www.alabamapublichealth.gov/tox/assets/al-fish-advisory-2022.pdfMercury appears to be the big concern for them. No mention of PFAS, though. Problem is, PFAS can be everywhere -- air, soil, water, etc. Think about where all that stuff has been historically applied: textiles, cooking/kitchen items, household products -- basically everywhere. I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, and I have eaten plenty freshwater fish, but bottom line is, we've got to take better care of our waterways. These persistent chemicals/compounds are a problem. And look, I'd much rather eat some freshwater Alabama fish than something farmed in Thailand or China or wherever. According to the state, Village Creek and Bayview lake are good to go, LOL.
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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: Mdees]
#3840256
01/18/23 11:54 AM
01/18/23 11:54 AM
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Posts: 3,161
NOALA
RidgeRanger
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I don’t care how many phds you get to sign the study, I’ll never believe that some flash frozen plastic wrapped fish from Sam’s is healthier than a fresh mess of Tensaw river crappie. If I’m wrong, I reckon I’ll just go to heaven ignorant of the subject. We are all going to die of something and we may as well enjoy catching and eating our own fish rather than buy similarly poisoned crap from abroad. Just be sure you take your experimental gene altering “vaccine”.
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Re: I Guess Fish is Not Good for Us Now...
[Re: woodduck]
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01/18/23 11:54 AM
01/18/23 11:54 AM
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Posts: 1,982
Lauderdale County
Cousneddy
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Lauderdale County
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So when will the study be out about the garbage in fish etc we are buying at wal mart etc. think I’ll stick with my freshly caught fish until then. I’m not expecting that study to come out any time soon 😬 It’s out there, just have to look for it. A lot of “wild caught” salmon ain’t really wild at all, it’s farmed from all over the globe.
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