i shot them all good VERY GOOD and like i said Found all the deer the arrow passed all the way thru and was covered with bright red blood all 3 times.... and like yal have said ive seen some really great blood trails and off deer that have been shot with a rage but also i know of 4 deer people shot on my club where it didnt pass thru and never found the deer already this year.... soooo i guess you never know how its gna turn out with any broad head...