Originally Posted by TurkeyJoe
I did read the first article, as you requested. It’s the contention of this lady from New York that the audible beating, from the place in the baby where the heart is, is not actually a heart beat. I happen to disagree. It’s a mute point to me, as I believe life begins at conception, but it’s eye opening the mental gymnastics folks will go through to justify killing babies.



So you admit it’s your opinion and not medical facts.

There’s the problem. No real conversation to be had.


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