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Muzzleloader Newbie #3646452
04/05/22 01:32 PM
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Russell County
WGDfarm23 Offline OP
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Looking at buying a .50 Cal Muzzleloader. Never owned a muzzleloader before but shot my buddies Knight 50 cal many of times.Wanting one that uses 209 primers and black powder sabots. Preferably one that is newer and easy to handle. Any suggestions on the best brand for an easy to shoot up to 100 yards and accurate 50 Cal that I don’t have to mix and measure powder?

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3646499
04/05/22 02:57 PM
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CVA is a good gun and won't break the bank


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Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3646559
04/05/22 04:32 PM
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Just bought a cva optima v2 combo with scope from muzzleloaders.com and I dig it but can’t find any 209 primers!!!!

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3646831
04/05/22 10:00 PM
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PM to OP incoming


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Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3646836
04/05/22 10:13 PM
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Russell County
WGDfarm23 Offline OP
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Replied. Thanks for the info! Looks like I’m leaning towards CVA but not in any hurry right now so if you have an opinion I’d love to hear it

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3646844
04/05/22 10:40 PM
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Central Alabama
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I'm real fond of my Thomson Center Encore Endeavor .50 cal ML.

Might want to take a look at them.

I can shoot a 3 shot group from 100 yards that all touch each other, using Hornady SST 250 grain bullets and 110 grain of Blackhorn 209.

Love this rifle.


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Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3649864
04/10/22 08:21 PM
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Had a CVA Optima, then a CVA Apex. IMHO can't go wrong with the CVA, if shopping used look for a V2. The easy to remove breech plug is really nice. Plenty of good folks on here that will help you spend your money wisely!

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3651168
04/12/22 07:12 PM
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Heard good things about Thompson Center encore - what Cuz Pat says - impressive

I hav a knight and it been good for me


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Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3651773
04/13/22 04:43 PM
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Encore is a great option, you can always swap to other calibers also. I'm also a big fan of the Knight rifles.

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3652466
04/14/22 03:57 PM
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I bought an Optima and a Wolf last year and both are deadly. You can find your primers on muzzle-loaders.com but buy them now because they will be gone in a few months.

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3652749
04/15/22 08:59 AM
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I recommend either CVA Accura or TC Encore. One requires no paperwork, the other does.

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3653175
04/15/22 08:13 PM
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Russell County
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Which one doesn’t require paperwork? I’ve been looking at the Accura LR and like it a lot

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3659475
04/26/22 08:51 PM
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I like my knight ultra light.


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Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3659695
04/27/22 09:22 AM
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The Optima V2 from muzzleloaders.com with the scope and gun case is what I have and it is great. So easy to load and clean . A great value also

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3659696
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The Optima V2 from muzzleloaders.com with the scope and gun case is what I have and it is great. So easy to load and clean . A great value also

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3660079
04/27/22 08:53 PM
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Russell County
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Does anyone own a CVA Accura by chance and have any input on it? Been looking at them and the V2 mainly.

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3660367
04/28/22 09:31 AM
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The CVA Optima V2 is a real good gun.

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3660404
04/28/22 10:21 AM
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I'm not going back to Sabots.

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: Tree Dweller] #3660567
04/28/22 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tree Dweller
I'm not going back to Sabots.

Is this your mode of operation TD?

Powder, Spit patch, ball, half cock, cap, ready, full cock, aim, squeeze first tigger, hold, fire.
Or
Are a flinter?

Last edited by CatHeadBiscuit; 04/28/22 02:09 PM.

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Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3660924
04/29/22 06:18 AM
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The Encore will require paperwork if bought new, the CVA can be bought over counter/online/etc.

I have both. The Encore Prohunter has served me well and extremely accurate. Picked up an Accura PR in black nitride last year. Very good trigger and iI too is extremely accurate, shooting less than 1"@100 yards w/ blackhorn 209 and 200 gr shockwave.


Originally Posted by WGDfarm23


Which one doesn’t require paperwork? I’ve been looking at the Accura LR and like it a lot

Does anyone own a CVA Accura by chance and have any input on it? Been looking at them and the V2 mainly.


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