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by AustinC. 05/21/24 05:01 PM
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Re: Florida FWC new rule re CWD
[Re: BhamFred]
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03/24/21 11:30 AM
03/24/21 11:30 AM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 22,053 Awbarn, AL
CNC
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most deer hunters have no clue how to cape out a buck.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Florida FWC new rule re CWD
[Re: hallb]
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03/24/21 12:46 PM
03/24/21 12:46 PM
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Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 7,196 Free State of Winston
FreeStateHunter
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My question is why?????
Where has there been a problem with the way it was done, where are outbreaks????
You donât need an outbreak. You only need ONE. And then what happens with the ONE? Where has it been proven that even ONE case has been brought across state lines from a deer being quartered up on ice in a cooler? I'm curious here.... it's been proven that it can be passed from contact with the meat/blood of an infected animal.... the fact that there may not be a case yet of it specifically doing so from a cooler full of it justifies to you putting the entire state's deer population, and everyone in the state's hunting so you can bring a couple of does across state lines? Am I tracking?
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Re: Florida FWC new rule re CWD
[Re: FreeStateHunter]
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03/24/21 02:32 PM
03/24/21 02:32 PM
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hallb
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My question is why?????
Where has there been a problem with the way it was done, where are outbreaks????
You donât need an outbreak. You only need ONE. And then what happens with the ONE? Where has it been proven that even ONE case has been brought across state lines from a deer being quartered up on ice in a cooler? I'm curious here.... it's been proven that it can be passed from contact with the meat/blood of an infected animal.... the fact that there may not be a case yet of it specifically doing so from a cooler full of it justifies to you putting the entire state's deer population, and everyone in the state's hunting so you can bring a couple of does across state lines? Am I tracking? No, you're not tracking b/c I didn't do that you just made up some scenario and don't think you actually even proof read what you wrote. If it can be passed via blood or meat, then we should outlaw all forms of hunting b/c you know what happens when you shoot a deer? They bleed. I'm not gonna have an argument about how CWD gets passed around deer to deer b/c the scientists aren't even 100% positive themselves. I'm just saying it's a stupid law they passed b/c it gave them the warm fuzzies that they were saving the deer herd from CWD somehow.
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Re: Florida FWC new rule re CWD
[Re: hallb]
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03/24/21 02:59 PM
03/24/21 02:59 PM
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My question is why?????
Where has there been a problem with the way it was done, where are outbreaks????
You donât need an outbreak. You only need ONE. And then what happens with the ONE? Where has it been proven that even ONE case has been brought across state lines from a deer being quartered up on ice in a cooler? Ok I wasnât tracking..... so what was the point of this question? Especially if youâre not wanting to argue how it spreads.
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Re: Florida FWC new rule re CWD
[Re: FreeStateHunter]
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03/24/21 03:23 PM
03/24/21 03:23 PM
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Posts: 10,781 Santa Rosa/Conecuh
hallb
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My question is why?????
Where has there been a problem with the way it was done, where are outbreaks????
You donât need an outbreak. You only need ONE. And then what happens with the ONE? Where has it been proven that even ONE case has been brought across state lines from a deer being quartered up on ice in a cooler? Ok I wasnât tracking..... so what was the point of this question? Especially if youâre not wanting to argue how it spreads. Rhetorical. Making a point about a stupid law. Making a point about the ONE portion of his response. He was correcting that person on they are not trying to avoid an outbreak, that they are just trying to avoid ONE case...well, that's b/c they are afraid ONE case will lead to an outbreak. And when that outbreak does happen, it won't be caused by a bunch of hind quarters in a cooler. And also I'm sure he knows the states plan to deal with an outbreak will kill more deer than the outbreak itself.
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Re: Florida FWC new rule re CWD
[Re: Gig]
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03/24/21 04:15 PM
03/24/21 04:15 PM
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Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 8,293 Right behind you
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Letâs just look at facts. Not theories.
Fact. CWD is a prion disease.
Fact. It can be found in neurological, spinal and bone tissue, as well as other areas.
Fact. People discard those parts of deer after processing.
Fact. Disposal exposes those prions to the environment.
Fact. That environment is where it can be exposed to living animals.
Once in the environment there is NO TAKING IT BACK.
Itâs not like saying âOops, well we messed up. Letâs clean up the mess and get it out of here.â
Itâs more like, âItâs here now. Yâall boys and gals hang on. This is gonna be interesting.â
Like freestatehunter stated, are you truly willing to place an entire population of deer, and the most important recreational opportunity in existence, at risk for everyone over a minor personal inconvenience? Once the first state says âHey yâall, weâve got irrefutable evidence that Johnny dumping infected deer parts in the gully has infected wild deer in x countyâ, it is far too late to do something about then. Itâs not worth the risk to me and states banning interstate transfer of infected parts is very wise and prudent in my opinion. Thatâs all Iâm saying about that. Yâall can disagree or agree until youâre all blue in the face. It is what it is. Proactive measures is what stops or slows the spread of this disease. Reactive measures are too late.
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Re: Florida FWC new rule re CWD
[Re: Gig]
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03/24/21 05:42 PM
03/24/21 05:42 PM
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Posts: 2,192 Central to South AL
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All these "import / export" rules have changed the way we have to operate the skinning shed at our charity hunt. Used to be skin, quarter, ice , and go( no gutting). I spent 4-5 hours this year caping and de-boning deer with 3 other guys to get them ready for transport. 1/2 our hunters are from FL - number we will have to de-bone will triple because they shoot the most deer. But it is for a good cause- we netted right at $52k this year for our charities.
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Re: Florida FWC new rule re CWD
[Re: hallb]
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03/24/21 07:54 PM
03/24/21 07:54 PM
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Where in the country has there been just a giant outbreak so far, is there really a state known for having deer numbers where the deer herd has been just decimated by CWD?
Wisconsin got decimated about 7-8 years ago, Iowa as well. We do not want to even come close to what happened in those states.
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Re: Florida FWC new rule re CWD
[Re: Gig]
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03/25/21 09:57 AM
03/25/21 09:57 AM
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Posts: 4,169 Florence, Al
AlabamaSwamper
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Considering the only populations thatâs been decimated involving CWD was done by humans, itâs really not something that bothers me
Sorry but Iâve talked to DNR employees in hot zones of other states thatâs had it for 20+ years and they basically chuckled at the response and plans of Alabama and Tennessee . Thatâs the two states I mentioned.
As one guy told me, reality isnât following our models and the sky isnât falling. Business as usual.
Last edited by AlabamaSwamper; 03/25/21 09:57 AM.
BTR Scorer in NW Alabama
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