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Re: Has hunting gotten to easy…..
[Re: Be_Cam]
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10/25/21 10:25 AM
10/25/21 10:25 AM
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scrape
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uh oh hit the post button twice. good video Gomor I enjoyed watching that one
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Re: Has hunting gotten to easy…..
[Re: Be_Cam]
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10/25/21 10:29 AM
10/25/21 10:29 AM
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BhamFred
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All parents, grandparents are different with different backgrounds and skill levels. All situations and hunting chances are different. Ain't no one size fits all.
My situation was different from a lot. My dad raised us hunting and fishing. He didn't deer hunt but a friends dad did and took us deer hunting mid teens. I have hunted and been outdoors all my life, prolly more than 95% folks on here even. I have killed an 18 wheeler load of deer and turkey. My daughters all hunted to different degrees.
My grandson by my youngest daughter lived with us when he was young. He went with us from when he was too small to walk, carried him on my shoulders. Wife carried him turkey hunting when he was still in diapers...and let him call some on a slate. He had a small wooden gun with a scope and "shot" deer with it. Was taught, and learned, gun/hunting safety from day one in diapers. He just absorbed everything we did in the woods and would get mad if left at home. I guess you could say I "sacrificed" a lot of quality hunting to carry him, but I didn't, and don't, see it that way.
He could outshoot his momma with an iron sighted .22 when he was three. Shot a deer with my youth 243 when he was just under four. Has killed a deer almost every year since then. Last year at 15 he killed three. One at 225 yards and another on foot stalking thru the woods on his own. He can live age deer near as good as I can. Shoots sub inch groups with his 6.5 Creedmore rifle at 100 yards.
it's all about teaching, and real experiences in the woods. Different strokes for different folks.
Just my way of doing it and it has, and still does, work for me and the child hunters I have carried and trained....and enjoyed.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Has hunting gotten to easy…..
[Re: hunterturf]
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10/25/21 12:11 PM
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Posts: 4,505 george county ms
johndeere5036
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I disagree. I’ve had mine with me in the woods since he was 2. He could barely walk and he was following me around like a puppy falling down and getting hung up in everything. We have watch 100s of hours of hunting shows and YouTube videos and I point out things done right / wrong. When the Hunter is abt to shoot he puts his finger on the iPad and points where to aim. He’s been shooting a gun since he was 2. He is light years ahead of most kids knowledge bc it’s what he’s heard and seen since he was old enough to comprehend information. And I think there’s something very important that happens when a kid kills a animal. That’s a lot to process at a young age. We as parents then get to explain why we do this and the importance of it. For me to watch my son tell one of MY friends that we are all eating a deer or turkey he killed brings up an emotion that’s unexplainable. A punishment for him is not going with me to our properties to check cameras and do work on them. To each his own in how they raise their children.
How fun would baseball be if you didn’t get to hit the ball until they’re 7. Teach them to throw and catch only. No hitting. Boy I bet that’d be fun. I’m with this guy. I am bringing up my boys the same way I was. If they shoot a big buck I’m beyond happy for them.
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Re: Has hunting gotten to easy…..
[Re: Be_Cam]
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10/25/21 01:26 PM
10/25/21 01:26 PM
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Not much "hunting" going on anymore. Today its mostly sitting at a feed source and waiting to shoot, I guess that is a form of "hunting."
To each their own I guess. If your child is 4 and you want to take him/her out and let them kill a deer, that's your choice, however, that's not going to make them a better hunter in the long run and it doesn't make them any more special than any other child. I enjoy hunting and fishing, my children were involved with both sports from toddlers on up and now none of them hunt or fish.
Lots of the videos the OP referred to are situations where the parent was far more interested in the child being involved than the child was interested in being involved. It's kind of like the armchair quarterback that never played sports but insists that his child will play and play travel ball and thinks he's raising the next Tom Brady.
I'm all for introducing kids to the outdoors but I'm not going to bribe them to go. I want them to have the desire and want to go and want to learn.
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Re: Has hunting gotten to easy…..
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10/25/21 01:57 PM
10/25/21 01:57 PM
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Posts: 8,771 bessemer, al
hunterturf
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At what age is it socially acceptable for kids to start playing sports?? Mine started soccer when he was 3 (we are short and quick, we know what we are good at). Isn’t the greatest teacher for most things experience?? Last thing I want to do is let him experience a sport too quickly and excel at it. We practice in the backyard nearly every day. He is truly talented and I want to do everything I can to make him be the best he can be at anything in life. He 100% understands that practice put into anything makes you better. In 2 seasons , he will have more than 100 goals. Where will he be in 5 years if he stays on this trajectory??
So back to hunting, every hunt he learns something. A lesson on a animal or plant, how to walk, gun safety, and just us 2 hanging out with no distractions and 100% focus on each other.
And a question for the OP, how old were you when you harvested you first animal. How many years did you go before being being the shooter.
Give me bout 15 more minutes, I was dreamin about beavers.......... Si Robertson
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Re: Has hunting gotten to easy…..
[Re: Be_Cam]
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10/25/21 02:17 PM
10/25/21 02:17 PM
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Posts: 1,635 East Alabama
MorningAir
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Alabama hunting is a product of what you have. You need good land, with low pressure and/or TIME.
1. Good property with low pressure 2. TIME to hunt - meaning, not just going on Saturday at the club 3. Disposable income 'MONEY' to create food or apply bait. 4. Camera time to monitor when to use the Time in Point 2 to hunt.
If you have these 4 things, yeah it's easy, and easier than it was in the past. For me, it's harder. I don't have great land, and don't have many days to hunt.. The land I hunt gets pressured to death, and every club I've been in for the last 20 years does. There are about 1/3 of the deer there were 20 years ago too, so it's harder to find deer on any property I've been on, whereas 20 years ago, you could climb any good looking spot and see deer.
Bottom line is it's all about what you have access to as to how easy it is. I know some guys who don't work, run cameras, have money for feed, and have some awesome land with maybe 1 hunter for every 500 acres. So, they have good land, they can feed and plant, they can run cameras to time when the deer will be there, and they have TIME to be there when the deer walks by. That's the key to it being easy. Anybody can kill a decent deer every year that has these 4 ingredients, anybody could do it.
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Re: Has hunting gotten to easy…..
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10/25/21 04:45 PM
10/25/21 04:45 PM
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Posts: 9,375 Jasper, AL
joshm28
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We hunt for fun, entertainment, memories, meat and the occasional wall paper. You go out and hunt the way you want to, I’ll go out and hunt the way I want to, same for everybody on here. Why in the world would you gripe about how someone else hunts?? I’m being serious. What happened to just going and having fun?? Why does it have to be my way or your way??
I personally do it different throughout the year. Might go sit in a nice shooting house with a heater and a feeder on the field one day then hit public land the following week to do something totally different. I might sit a feeder till 8am then still hunt a large pine plantation the next 2-3 hours. I hunt, how I want that day depending on what I feel like. There’s no right or wrong. Just go, BE SAFE, and have fun.
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Re: Has hunting gotten to easy…..
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10/25/21 05:52 PM
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Do what makes you individually happy. My personal opinion is that woodsmanship and outdoorsmanship are going away as more and more are people sitting on food plots. And that wasn't producing the desired outcome fast enough so then came the corn feeders. Again, do what makes you happy. It's not for me to tell anybody how to hunt or judge them. But I talk to alot of "hunters" who couldn't find a deer on public land if their life depended on it. They have no clue as how to scout or read the sign if they run across it. And then you have the whole "is he old enough or is he big enough". Most people don't have the land or money to actually have any control over if that deer lives another year if they pass on it. Again, do what makes you happy. I went back to hunting public land a handful of years ago and I'm hunting hard but having fun. I went back to actual hunting and I shoot whatever is legal. No shame or remorse. So to answer the question, it hasn't gotten easier for me personally but for some I'm sure it has. Just go hunt, make memories, have fun and be safe.
In your darkest hour when the demons come, call on me brother and we'll fight them together.
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Re: Has hunting gotten to easy…..
[Re: hunterturf]
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10/25/21 06:52 PM
10/25/21 06:52 PM
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Posts: 742 East Central Alabama
Be_Cam
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At what age is it socially acceptable for kids to start playing sports?? Mine started soccer when he was 3 (we are short and quick, we know what we are good at). Isn’t the greatest teacher for most things experience?? Last thing I want to do is let him experience a sport too quickly and excel at it. We practice in the backyard nearly every day. He is truly talented and I want to do everything I can to make him be the best he can be at anything in life. He 100% understands that practice put into anything makes you better. In 2 seasons , he will have more than 100 goals. Where will he be in 5 years if he stays on this trajectory??
So back to hunting, every hunt he learns something. A lesson on a animal or plant, how to walk, gun safety, and just us 2 hanging out with no distractions and 100% focus on each other.
And a question for the OP, how old were you when you harvested you first animal. How many years did you go before being being the shooter.
I was 7-8 years old when I started to tote a real gun hunting, squirrel and rabbit mainly. Dad had beagles growing up. I was 12 when I killed my first deer, I was by myself and dad was 100 yards or so down the holler. But I hunted on the farm by myself when I was 10 or 11. Just walk off behind the house and sit a while, always had a dog with me usually. But I was taught saftey mainly as well what sign to look for and so forth. I guess I touched a nerve with some folks, that wasn’t my intention just was making a observation mainly. My last few sentences seems to gotten skipped over I think. 😁😁
A friend, the Bible and a banker will get you though about anything.
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Re: Has hunting gotten to easy…..
[Re: Be_Cam]
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10/25/21 07:04 PM
10/25/21 07:04 PM
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Posts: 5,349 Georgia and Missouri
Semo
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Posts: 5,349
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At what age is it socially acceptable for kids to start playing sports?? Mine started soccer when he was 3 (we are short and quick, we know what we are good at). Isn’t the greatest teacher for most things experience?? Last thing I want to do is let him experience a sport too quickly and excel at it. We practice in the backyard nearly every day. He is truly talented and I want to do everything I can to make him be the best he can be at anything in life. He 100% understands that practice put into anything makes you better. In 2 seasons , he will have more than 100 goals. Where will he be in 5 years if he stays on this trajectory??
So back to hunting, every hunt he learns something. A lesson on a animal or plant, how to walk, gun safety, and just us 2 hanging out with no distractions and 100% focus on each other.
And a question for the OP, how old were you when you harvested you first animal. How many years did you go before being being the shooter.
I was 7-8 years old when I started to tote a real gun hunting, squirrel and rabbit mainly. Dad had beagles growing up. I was 12 when I killed my first deer, I was by myself and dad was 100 yards or so down the holler. But I hunted on the farm by myself when I was 10 or 11. Just walk off behind the house and sit a while, always had a dog with me usually. But I was taught saftey mainly as well what sign to look for and so forth. I guess I touched a nerve with some folks, that wasn’t my intention just was making a observation mainly. My last few sentences seems to gotten skipped over I think. 😁😁 We were about the same. I was a squirrel and rabbit killing machine from about 9+. Though I was 13 when I was allowed to deer hunt. Our rule has been nobody under 16 deer hunts outside of youth season. And I dont allow anyone under 10 youth deer hunt. I never sat with my dad until he got cancer and needed some help 30+ years after that 1st time he let me deer hunt. Though I drove deer from about 8 yrs old and learned a lot about deer doung that.
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Re: Has hunting gotten to easy…..
[Re: Be_Cam]
#3515428
10/25/21 07:13 PM
10/25/21 07:13 PM
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Posts: 742 East Central Alabama
Be_Cam
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Now I was in the woods and water since I could walk. I killed all kind of critter with a crossman 760 pump master. Lol. Dad took me out a lot of times when I’m sure he didn’t want to. Hunting and fishing was all I cared about and still about the same. 😁😁
A friend, the Bible and a banker will get you though about anything.
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Re: Has hunting gotten to easy…..
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10/25/21 07:24 PM
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Posts: 22,088 Awbarn, AL
CNC
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[quote=Be_Cam]Lots of grown men have no idea "how to hunt" outside of sitting in a shooting house I'm not judging anyone by saying this but just stating a matter of fact........but all deer hunting is now is sitting over a pile of corn and rice bran......For better or worse that's what it is now......I dont recall the last time I tracked a deer that wasnt shot over a feeder or bait pile
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We dont rent pigs
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