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Re: A Lil’ Tractor Time [Re: CAL] #3508808
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Originally Posted by CAL
Did you spray it before mowing?


No, I probably havent sprayed in 5 years now.........I havent added any P&K for maybe 3 or 4 years and this is my second year without adding any nitrogen......No spray, no fert


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I do the run over & throw. I dont spray or mow. I run over area with 4 wheeler. Spread seed & fert and run over again. Ain't fancy but works.

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Originally Posted by Chiller
I do the run over & throw. I dont spray or mow. I run over area with 4 wheeler. Spread seed & fert and run over again. Ain't fancy but works.


I did that last year but had to go back and mow it because I couldnt see the deer in it.....especially right at dark


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Re: A Lil’ Tractor Time [Re: CNC] #3509299
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I’ve been reading and also listening to some podcasts on regenerative ag lately. Most are really big on no inputs of synthetic fertilizer or herbicides. The other thing I’ve noticed is that many of them are using blends of 10 or more varieties of seed. I’ve seen some with as many as 17 varieties but they admit that some plants may not show up.


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Re: A Lil’ Tractor Time [Re: CNC] #3509312
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Please don’t consider that normal agriculture practices. That’s just hogwash for deer plots

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Re: A Lil’ Tractor Time [Re: 257wbymag] #3509318
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Please don’t consider that normal agriculture practices. That’s just hogwash for deer plots

Ain't got a clue what's right or wrong but I know a dog in the fight when I see one 🤣


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Re: A Lil’ Tractor Time [Re: CNC] #3509348
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I’m not totally against spraying or adding fertilizer. But if I can reduce my fertilizer costs in the future it’s interesting. We rent a field to a farmer who does a cotton/peanut rotation so I’m kind of familiar with what goes into production ag, at least in our area.

My current method is to spray, mow, spread fertilizer then make a single pass with the Firminator using the least amount of angle in the gangs as needed, usually 5-10 degrees. I’m getting anywhere from 40-100% coverage of crop residue as a mulch after the single pass. Goal is to keep as much surface cover as possible over the entire year.

I’ve got several years of soil sample results on one property and an initial base line this year on another. If things improve and I can cut my fertilizer, great. If not, I’ll burn the thatch off in a couple of years and run a set of disks through it buried to the hub and maybe break out the disc plow and roll everything over. I also know I’m generally working with some pretty good soils to begin with. JohnG and those guys working with prairie soils are wrestling with a totally different beast.

One common theme I hear in a lot of habitat discussion is “site specific”. If I can save a little money, great. If not I can resume planting using traditional methods. Your mileage may vary and if it does great.


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Re: A Lil’ Tractor Time [Re: CNC] #3509622
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I have a field that I didn’t plant last year that I’m going to try this on tomorrow. I would disc or drill but it has several stumps in it. Going to seed/fert heavily and mow. We’ll see

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So here’s what I don’t get about saying “If it’ll work”……..Saying that is like we’re starting from the premise that the Earth was once barren and void of plant life……and then one day man invented the “plow” and he was therefore able to suddenly turn a world of dust into an oasis of lush plant life………….But its just the opposite……Nature has been growing plants very effectively and pretty much without fail for eons without needing to do all of this other stuff to make it work…..So when you say “Will it or can it work?”…….I think that question has already been answered and you have the example……The real question is “Can YOU figure out how to make what you’re wanting to do work?”………There’s really no question about “can it”………

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That's real awesome. Wheat grows in the cracks on my driveway were I blow the seed out the back of my truck bed.

What a joke.


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Originally Posted by Goatkiller


That's real awesome. Wheat grows in the cracks on my driveway were I blow the seed out the back of my truck bed.

What a joke.



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Re: A Lil’ Tractor Time [Re: Goatkiller] #3510156
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller


That's real awesome. Wheat grows in the cracks on my driveway were I blow the seed out the back of my truck bed.

What a joke.



Is that an argument for, or against this technique? It could be either.

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Originally Posted by Remington270
[Is that an argument for, or against this technique? It could be either.


Most of Goatkiller's posts are about the equivalent of a Molotov cocktail made in an empty bottle of OE.......He really needs to work on that.


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Re: A Lil’ Tractor Time [Re: CNC] #3510305
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If you throw rye out in your lawn before the next rain it will be green all winter.....

36 pages of essentially that..... and you'd think there wouldn't be much more to talk about.

Look it came up!

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Re: A Lil’ Tractor Time [Re: Goatkiller] #3510326
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You’re just making stuff up…..You seem to think differently in other threads……..Here’s just one of your comments recently……Doesn’t sound to me as if it’s as simple as you’re making it out to be? slap



Originally Posted by Goatkiller

You need a chisel plow with some good sharp points on it and I would probably get serious about developing some tilth by any means necessary. Get some manure if you can, sawdust, hay whatever it takes to get that soil in better condition by adding organic matter. If the situation is as bad as it sounds you've probably already got compaction, etc. Not good. I would probably go all the way back to step one and rip it then plant for organic matter.


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Re: A Lil’ Tractor Time [Re: CNC] #3510391
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Took this pic at a place I went tracking……There’s about three acres behind me that looks like the bottom of the pic while the perimeter looks like the top …….I once was blind but now I see……or maybe I don’t. grin

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Nah. You’re blind as hell


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Re: A Lil’ Tractor Time [Re: 257wbymag] #3510411
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Nah. You’re blind as hell


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Re: A Lil’ Tractor Time [Re: 257wbymag] #3510955
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Nah. You’re blind as hell



But he can grow a really nice stand of weeds.

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Re: A Lil’ Tractor Time [Re: CNC] #3511578
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My kids overseeded my lawn last weekend for winter. CNC could probably learn something from a 12 year old.... they did a fine job with very little and basic instruction.

What could there be to discuss that would require 36 pages of pictures of weeds and discussion of technique?

Total joke is what this is.


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