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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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09/27/21 08:51 AM
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Phil_Army
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I have a friend who leased a plot a few years ago. They put feeders along their roads and they hang treestands 75-100 yards away from the road on the biggest trails leading to the feeders. They can fill feeders from a truck and they kill big bucks. They stopped doing food plots and just went with these feeders
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
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09/27/21 09:36 AM
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I have a friend who leased a plot a few years ago. They put feeders along their roads and they hang treestands 75-100 yards away from the road on the biggest trails leading to the feeders. They can fill feeders from a truck and they kill big bucks. They stopped doing food plots and just went with these feeders This ^^^^........This is the best way to hunt a piece of property period in my opinion........Not necessarily just the corn idea but setting all of your hunting spots and feeding spots, etc along the road system and never entering the "woods" for more than retrieving the ones you shoot.....Make as many stands as possible be a simple drop out from the truck right at the foot of the ladder. I'd still have to do food plots though
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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09/28/21 10:41 AM
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I used to hunt with a bunch of old men when I was younger who never got off of the roads and hunted the same old stands, etc……Of course I always had to go as deep as you could and it was the catalyst of one of those little bits of drama that you get in every club……Looking back on it I probably was screwing things up but that’s just how it goes in a hunting club with 25 folks.
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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09/28/21 01:39 PM
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If I were gonna both bait with corn and plant food plots in the same exact spot……I’d still want to separate the two if you’re feeding at any decent clip…….In essence what you are creating on your soil is a mob grazing effect of hooves. Now this may be exactly what someone might want to do of they had a lot of thatch built up on the surface but what I see more often than not is areas around the feeders just beat down to mud and dirt……..Like an area where cows have been fed or something…….
This is just me but here’s an idea for what its worth…….If you’re gonna feed corn around your greenfields then instead of using the concentrated hoofing action to destroy your food plot…….instead, set it just off to the side of the food plot and periodically move it around the perimeter so that you use the concentrated deer hoofing and browsing as a means of resetting succession and creating a buffer of new understory growth around the food plot……In other words, let them beat down and hoof up this little circle for a while and then move it 50-100 yards before it ever gets to that muddy, dirt stage....and let them work on another spot for a while....and so forth…..again around the perimeter of the plot.....
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: Stoney]
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09/28/21 02:04 PM
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Lockjaw -- What kind of feeder did you order? Do you have a site that shows it? It's a Moultrie Deer Feeder Unlimited. I could only find 1 youtube on it, but it showed a coon getting on it and getting off in a hurry. It's about $189. Then I got the moultrie battery and solar charger, even though the battery is supposed to last a while, I don't want the shocker to not have full juice!! LOL!! I figure I can add their cage too if this doesn't work.
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: CNC]
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09/28/21 02:24 PM
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If I were gonna both bait with corn and plant food plots in the same exact spot……I’d still want to separate the two if you’re feeding at any decent clip…….In essence what you are creating on your soil is a mob grazing effect of hooves. Now this may be exactly what someone might want to do of they had a lot of thatch built up on the surface but what I see more often than not is areas around the feeders just beat down to mud and dirt……..Like an area where cows have been fed or something…….
This is just me but here’s an idea for what its worth…….If you’re gonna feed corn around your greenfields then instead of using the concentrated hoofing action to destroy your food plot…….instead, set it just off to the side of the food plot and periodically move it around the perimeter so that you use the concentrated deer hoofing and browsing as a means of resetting succession and creating a buffer of new understory growth around the food plot……In other words, let them beat down and hoof up this little circle for a while and then move it 50-100 yards before it ever gets to that muddy, dirt stage....and let them work on another spot for a while....and so forth…..again around the perimeter of the plot.....
I like that idea, but it requires overcoming the inherent laziness of your average hunter. They don't get if you want to see deer on green fields, you can't shoot everyone that walks out on it.
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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09/28/21 03:42 PM
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I like that idea, but it requires overcoming the inherent laziness of your average hunter. They don't get if you want to see deer on green fields, you can't shoot everyone that walks out on it. I had a cousin that went all out feeding corn when they legalized it and was dumping it out by the damn truck load every weekend or two at least. He had feeders going but then he was also pouring out 200-300 lbs at a time on the ground too around the edges of food plots……I got to noticing that the deer were just wearing out the vegetation around where he was doing that and convinced him to slide over a little each time instead of dumping back on the same spot……You would be amazed at just how much of an area the deer would clean up like goats as the weeks rolled by……Of course when the following spring rolls around then the perimeter of your food plot comes back in some fresh understory growth........ Again, you could use corn and this concentrated hoofing action to your advantage as well on the food plot itself if you have a lot of surface residue or hay on top……In this case some added hoofing action would help …..up until you reached a certain threshold ……This is where understanding concepts really comes in handy.…..Adapt on the fly……What would also work well would be to mix a little clover seed and corn together and broadcast that out over a thatch covered plot……maybe even add a little cereal rye into mix eacg time…….No thatch then move your corn to the perimeter.
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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09/28/21 04:54 PM
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What I noticed last season on one field in particular is the deer would come out and eat the corn for about 5 minutes or so, and then eat the green plants in the food plot for a lot longer. The thing you can't get away from in the winter is the deer have to have "greens" of some sort since most all that dies off except for green briar and privit hedge and some honey suckle. They are eating acorns and then the corn, plus woody mast, and they can't digest it without greens. I never ever saw a deer sit on a corn pile and eat for longer than about 5 or 6 minutes. You can make them stay longer if you really scatter it around, where they have to work for it to find it, but then you still end up with Coons on it all night long.
I had a really hot spot last year and I went in and trapped coons off it, and that just added extra traffic, plus me in there killing them. So I think this year I will set some traps in places I don't want to hunt and see if I can catch some. Especially when I had one of my kiddo's with me, because they want to go and either kill it, or watch. Not sure if that spot will be good this year or not, I just put a camera on it over the weekend, along with some persimmon crush. Going to get some rice bran and scatter it around too.
But that would be a good way to get some extra seed in the ground. I have really worked hard this season to get perennial stuff on nearly all the plots. The ones I have camera's on that I established last year have been pounded this year. If those had been pea fields, they would have been bare 3 months ago.
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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09/28/21 06:46 PM
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We done the same thing this year. No corn in the woods. only on green fields in feeders. Just trying to cut down on pressure My problem, which we just put a stop to, is putting corn on green fields. Then they put a camera on it, and have to go walk into the greenfield all the time to check the camera and put more corn out. I think next year we are going to require feeders.
That was the first thing the wildlife biologist said we needed to do, minimize traffic on and around them green fields, and move shooting houses and any stands further off them.
I am not burning $11 a bag to feed corn to coons. My feeder should be here tomorrow and I will set it up and see how it does. It has the "shocker" thing around the slinger, so I bet it will be interesting to see how the coons react to that! My problem, which we just put a stop to, is putting corn on green fields. Then they put a camera on it, and have to go walk into the greenfield all the time to check the camera and put more corn out. I think next year we are going to require feeders.
That was the first thing the wildlife biologist said we needed to do, minimize traffic on and around them green fields, and move shooting houses and any stands further off them.
I am not burning $11 a bag to feed corn to coons. My feeder should be here tomorrow and I will set it up and see how it does. It has the "shocker" thing around the slinger, so I bet it will be interesting to see how the coons react to that!
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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09/29/21 08:11 AM
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I think the 3 of us on the board could go there if we had a couple of conditions. First, don't set the thing to dispense for very long, maybe 3 or 4 seconds twice a day, and second, we need to approve the field(s) they go on. We thought it would be to much of a push to require feeders only without giving everyone advance notice, which we did.
What we wanted to avoid was all the traffic on the green fields. We have several hunters with kids who haven't shot a deer yet, so the goal is to aid them in being able to do that with their kids. If you want to find a spot out in the woods and put corn on it, and go in there all the time, that is on you. But for one hunter to basically put corn out on 1 field, it tends to become pressure no one else can control. I had a couple spots in the woods last year I was doing that on, and they held deer all year long, but I didn't hunt them very much. I really think that works better if you go in there periodically and drop 5 pounds of corn on the ground and then don't put any out for a week or two. That forces the deer to keep checking for it.
And we had people who would come out later in the afternoon to bait fields and check camera's, which we also put a stop to as well. We basically said absolutely no baiting after dusk and the only time acceptable, unless you were packing it into your stand site was from 10am to 2pm. It is sad that we have to make a rule that strict, but we had a couple guys who were doing this consistently, and they drive as close to the field as they can get, which just bumps deer when there are very active.
BradB, the timber co is supposed to cut a large section of our lease next year, and they have already agreed to give us 2 fields that are about half an acre each. Since they sold acreage that had our largest field on it, they agreed to let us expand a field down along a creek, and we didn't go as big as they said we could, so I am hoping to go the route you did and have a couple of long fields so we can set up for just about any wind direction. And ask for a little bigger than half an acre.
I had a biologist out this spring, and based upon her feedback, we are making some changes, and I hope our guys see the benefits.
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: CNC]
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09/29/21 08:34 AM
09/29/21 08:34 AM
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joshm28
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If I were gonna both bait with corn and plant food plots in the same exact spot……I’d still want to separate the two if you’re feeding at any decent clip…….In essence what you are creating on your soil is a mob grazing effect of hooves. Now this may be exactly what someone might want to do of they had a lot of thatch built up on the surface but what I see more often than not is areas around the feeders just beat down to mud and dirt……..Like an area where cows have been fed or something…….
This is just me but here’s an idea for what its worth…….If you’re gonna feed corn around your greenfields then instead of using the concentrated hoofing action to destroy your food plot…….instead, set it just off to the side of the food plot and periodically move it around the perimeter so that you use the concentrated deer hoofing and browsing as a means of resetting succession and creating a buffer of new understory growth around the food plot……In other words, let them beat down and hoof up this little circle for a while and then move it 50-100 yards before it ever gets to that muddy, dirt stage....and let them work on another spot for a while....and so forth…..again around the perimeter of the plot.....
Bad idea in my opinion. Those mature does can be just as wary as mature bucks. Last year I moved a feeder on a plot and the deer quit using it regularly. Moved it back (50 yards or so) and they went back to using it daily. I’m ok with losing a 10, diameter circle in a plot. We typically sit ours on the edge or back of the fields anyway so I’m not losing much room at all.
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