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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3493556
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I am leary of the pit bull breed BUT a dog is a dog. It’s an animal. I even wanted to train one for bite work. Still do….BUT those dogs are a different level and they’re STILL an animal. You can not always predict what an animal is gonna do. From a chihuahua to a bill mastiff. I’m still watchful over a dog and any kid.

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: leroycnbucks] #3493560
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Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
Originally Posted by bama_earl
My grandparents are 87 and 84. They have a pitbull that used to be their son's who passed away 4 years ago. It don't mess with me and I don't mess with him. He is really a good dog who does provide some protection for them if it was needed.

However, I can't take my grandkids to see them and it breaks my heart. But they understand. We have fish fries and cookouts at my house so they can play with their grandkids.


What? You have grandkids and your grandparents are still alive?


I got a cousin who has grandkids and grandparents. He had his first kid when he was 15.


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3493562
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Stories like this are a good reminder to always carry a pistol. I won’t even walk my dog to the mailbox without a gun because of other dogs. There are probably 10 different women who walk their dogs through my neighborhood and I’ve never seen one of them with a side arm. We have pretty much gotten this entire section of Opelika under control with people letting their dogs out after a few incidents, but it’s still stupid to walk a dog anywhere without a side arm.

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3493565
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I understand these dogs are at the top of the list of aggression/attacks, I’ve owned several pits and lots of other breeds. I’ve raised every dog I’ve ever had from a weening age pup. Hounds mostly, and I’ve owned on the closer side to a hundred in 20 years. The pits I owned and I raised, couldn’t hold a candle to an old walker gyp, or Black and Tan giving they were ill.

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3493578
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What is the “Big Cat”?


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Avengedsevenfold] #3493580
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What is the “Big Cat”?


And what was going on at 2 am that he was walking around?


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3493589
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
Originally Posted by bama_earl
My grandparents are 87 and 84. They have a pitbull that used to be their son's who passed away 4 years ago. It don't mess with me and I don't mess with him. He is really a good dog who does provide some protection for them if it was needed.

However, I can't take my grandkids to see them and it breaks my heart. But they understand. We have fish fries and cookouts at my house so they can play with their grandkids.


What? You have grandkids and your grandparents are still alive?


I got a cousin who has grandkids and grandparents. He had his first kid when he was 15.


Same, the wife and I had our first child as teenagers. My son knew his great-great grandmother, she passed when he was 8.

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3493594
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One thing that can determine whether any dog will be aggressive is how much socialization it's had as a puppy. It's important to socialize dogs around people OUTSIDE of your family.


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3493675
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hope they find the owner so they can slap that $20 fine on them

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Andalusia] #3493676
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Originally Posted by Andalusia
Obviously there are dangerous dogs in all breeds but if I hear "someone is walking down the street and mauled to death" I honestly think Pitbull first.

There is an old saying...."when you hear hoofbeats, think horses not elephants".





By the Numbers: Dangerous Dogs
So how exactly do we measure the “dangerous-ness” of a dog breed? And what factors should we be looking at? There is no correct method or 100% accurate way of measuring how dangerous a dog is. Instead, we have to make use of the data we have.

That said, we measure these dangerous breeds based on two statistics:

How many human fatalities (deaths) caused by this dog breed
How many attacks from this breed have been reported
Aggressive dogs and their attacks on human have been a heated controversial topic ever since the beginning of the domestication of dogs. And in the 1990’s, the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) decided to examine the data on these attacks.

They discovered that the Pit Bull was the most dangerous breed in the United States (between 1979 and 1996). In fact, Pit Bulls were involved in 60 fatal incidents, which is more than double the number of incidents of the second place Rottweiler (29 incidents).

But of course, there are always exceptions in addition to many external factors that can play into this. We’re also not trying to generalize all dogs in a breed as dangerous or aggressive. This is simply objective data and facts we can use to measure how dangerous dogs are.

Fatal Dog Attacks – The Report
Of course these dog attacks haven’t stopped since the 90’s. Picking up where the CDC left off, DogsBite.org also conducted an investigation on fatal U.S. dog attacks (from 2005 to 2017).

Not only did they record the attacks, but also: victim’s age, number of dogs involved and consequent punishment (if any). What’s alarming is that the Pit Bull accounted for 66% of all fatalities in the 13-year span. That’s 284 deaths from 2005 to 2017.

The second place Rottweiler accounted for less than 11% of fatal attacks with a mere 45 deaths. The story is in the data. And the data tell us that the Pit Bull is by far, the most dangerous dog breed in the world.






I wish to hell you people would stop posting that sh!t. Learn who done the research and how the research was done.

Just because it reads like you like don't mean it'd worth the paper it's wrote on .

Rant over

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3493689
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One of our local crackheads had 2 large male pit bulls. One day they decided they didn’t like each other and locked up. Crackhead pulls out a .45 auto and decides to shoot into the ground to scare the dogs. Crackhead misses the ground and hits his older pit in the hind end. Crackhead grabs the dog, throws it in the truck and takes off to the vets office. While on the way, crackhead calls me and told me what he done. I inform our office and headed out to the scene of the shooting. Crackhead runs in the vets office, covered in dog blood and screams “ I need help I shot my dog, lady.” Well the receptionist heard “I need help I shot a lady” and hauled her arse in the back and call local police. They swarmed the vets office and tackled crackhead, slammed him to the ground and placed him in handcuffs. It took crackhead a while to convince the officers that he shot his dog and to contact me so I could explain everything to them. A whole lotta chit happened that day over useless pit bulls. I had a good laugh with it.


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3493710
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Why did vet receptionist go and out stupid'd the crackhead?

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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3493715
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Weiner dogs are fiesty. Watched a lady walk two around the lake in my hood, and they went into beast mode on every dog they ran into.

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3493717
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Wasn't there was a story a few years ago where a herd of wild wiener dogs or Chihuahua's killed a lady.

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3493725
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The name pit bull is has come to represent numerous dog breeds that are not pits, just because someone said it was a pit doesn’t mean that it was. I’ve heard people call a boxer a pit.


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Frankie] #3493728
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by Andalusia
Obviously there are dangerous dogs in all breeds but if I hear "someone is walking down the street and mauled to death" I honestly think Pitbull first.

There is an old saying...."when you hear hoofbeats, think horses not elephants".





By the Numbers: Dangerous Dogs
So how exactly do we measure the “dangerous-ness” of a dog breed? And what factors should we be looking at? There is no correct method or 100% accurate way of measuring how dangerous a dog is. Instead, we have to make use of the data we have.

That said, we measure these dangerous breeds based on two statistics:

How many human fatalities (deaths) caused by this dog breed
How many attacks from this breed have been reported
Aggressive dogs and their attacks on human have been a heated controversial topic ever since the beginning of the domestication of dogs. And in the 1990’s, the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) decided to examine the data on these attacks.

They discovered that the Pit Bull was the most dangerous breed in the United States (between 1979 and 1996). In fact, Pit Bulls were involved in 60 fatal incidents, which is more than double the number of incidents of the second place Rottweiler (29 incidents).

But of course, there are always exceptions in addition to many external factors that can play into this. We’re also not trying to generalize all dogs in a breed as dangerous or aggressive. This is simply objective data and facts we can use to measure how dangerous dogs are.

Fatal Dog Attacks – The Report
Of course these dog attacks haven’t stopped since the 90’s. Picking up where the CDC left off, DogsBite.org also conducted an investigation on fatal U.S. dog attacks (from 2005 to 2017).

Not only did they record the attacks, but also: victim’s age, number of dogs involved and consequent punishment (if any). What’s alarming is that the Pit Bull accounted for 66% of all fatalities in the 13-year span. That’s 284 deaths from 2005 to 2017.

The second place Rottweiler accounted for less than 11% of fatal attacks with a mere 45 deaths. The story is in the data. And the data tell us that the Pit Bull is by far, the most dangerous dog breed in the world.






I wish to hell you people would stop posting that sh!t. Learn who done the research and how the research was done.

Just because it reads like you like don't mean it'd worth the paper it's wrote on .

Rant over

If you have more accurate information that has been vetted please post-up the source so we can all be better educated.


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: sbo1971] #3493730
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Originally Posted by sbo1971
The name pit bull is has come to represent numerous dog breeds that are not pits, just because someone said it was a pit doesn’t mean that it was. I’ve heard people call a boxer a pit.

This is true. I had someone that thought my Great Dane was a pit.


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Andalusia] #3493734
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Originally Posted by Andalusia
Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by Andalusia
Obviously there are dangerous dogs in all breeds but if I hear "someone is walking down the street and mauled to death" I honestly think Pitbull first.

There is an old saying...."when you hear hoofbeats, think horses not elephants".





By the Numbers: Dangerous Dogs
So how exactly do we measure the “dangerous-ness” of a dog breed? And what factors should we be looking at? There is no correct method or 100% accurate way of measuring how dangerous a dog is. Instead, we have to make use of the data we have.

That said, we measure these dangerous breeds based on two statistics:

How many human fatalities (deaths) caused by this dog breed
How many attacks from this breed have been reported
Aggressive dogs and their attacks on human have been a heated controversial topic ever since the beginning of the domestication of dogs. And in the 1990’s, the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) decided to examine the data on these attacks.

They discovered that the Pit Bull was the most dangerous breed in the United States (between 1979 and 1996). In fact, Pit Bulls were involved in 60 fatal incidents, which is more than double the number of incidents of the second place Rottweiler (29 incidents).

But of course, there are always exceptions in addition to many external factors that can play into this. We’re also not trying to generalize all dogs in a breed as dangerous or aggressive. This is simply objective data and facts we can use to measure how dangerous dogs are.

Fatal Dog Attacks – The Report
Of course these dog attacks haven’t stopped since the 90’s. Picking up where the CDC left off, DogsBite.org also conducted an investigation on fatal U.S. dog attacks (from 2005 to 2017).

Not only did they record the attacks, but also: victim’s age, number of dogs involved and consequent punishment (if any). What’s alarming is that the Pit Bull accounted for 66% of all fatalities in the 13-year span. That’s 284 deaths from 2005 to 2017.

The second place Rottweiler accounted for less than 11% of fatal attacks with a mere 45 deaths. The story is in the data. And the data tell us that the Pit Bull is by far, the most dangerous dog breed in the world.






I wish to hell you people would stop posting that sh!t. Learn who done the research and how the research was done.

Just because it reads like you like don't mean it'd worth the paper it's wrote on .

Rant over

If you have more accurate information that has been vetted please post-up the source so we can all be better educated.




Vetted , you got to be kidding . Like I said , research it . Go to the CDC look at the bottom of the page and you see where this research came from. Then go to that site and read who they are and how they came up with this study ....

No I can't post any there is no accurate info . Nothing but wishful and made up bs.


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Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by Andalusia
Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by Andalusia
Obviously there are dangerous dogs in all breeds but if I hear "someone is walking down the street and mauled to death" I honestly think Pitbull first.

There is an old saying...."when you hear hoofbeats, think horses not elephants".





By the Numbers: Dangerous Dogs
So how exactly do we measure the “dangerous-ness” of a dog breed? And what factors should we be looking at? There is no correct method or 100% accurate way of measuring how dangerous a dog is. Instead, we have to make use of the data we have.

That said, we measure these dangerous breeds based on two statistics:

How many human fatalities (deaths) caused by this dog breed
How many attacks from this breed have been reported
Aggressive dogs and their attacks on human have been a heated controversial topic ever since the beginning of the domestication of dogs. And in the 1990’s, the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) decided to examine the data on these attacks.

They discovered that the Pit Bull was the most dangerous breed in the United States (between 1979 and 1996). In fact, Pit Bulls were involved in 60 fatal incidents, which is more than double the number of incidents of the second place Rottweiler (29 incidents).

But of course, there are always exceptions in addition to many external factors that can play into this. We’re also not trying to generalize all dogs in a breed as dangerous or aggressive. This is simply objective data and facts we can use to measure how dangerous dogs are.

Fatal Dog Attacks – The Report
Of course these dog attacks haven’t stopped since the 90’s. Picking up where the CDC left off, DogsBite.org also conducted an investigation on fatal U.S. dog attacks (from 2005 to 2017).

Not only did they record the attacks, but also: victim’s age, number of dogs involved and consequent punishment (if any). What’s alarming is that the Pit Bull accounted for 66% of all fatalities in the 13-year span. That’s 284 deaths from 2005 to 2017.

The second place Rottweiler accounted for less than 11% of fatal attacks with a mere 45 deaths. The story is in the data. And the data tell us that the Pit Bull is by far, the most dangerous dog breed in the world.






I wish to hell you people would stop posting that sh!t. Learn who done the research and how the research was done.

Just because it reads like you like don't mean it'd worth the paper it's wrote on .

Rant over

If you have more accurate information that has been vetted please post-up the source so we can all be better educated.




Vetted , you got to be kidding . Like I said , research it . Go to the CDC look at the bottom of the page and you see where this research came from. Then go to that site and read who they are and how they came up with this study ....

No I can't post any there is no accurate info . Nothing but wishful and made up bs.


I posted best info

Not sure why you are arguing that Pitbulls shouldn't top the list...but as I said before, if I hear someone is killed by a dog, then I think Pitbull first and nothing you have said has changed my mind.


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3493759
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I'm not saying Pitts are not dangerous. I'm saying you're posting a bs study and using it to try and prove the point.

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