What I don't get it was legal with a permit before why chage now. I don't know of any body that has been turned for hunting hogs at night.

Just like the deer baiting bill it's about money not conservation

it ALL about the money.

It's damn hard not to agree when you read or listen to what they say .

They passed the baiting bill with a fee because it would cost the fine revenue if they did add the fee.

This saved the GW no time to devote to other crimes cause they still have to check hunters at baited sites to see if he's legal . Will be the same with the night hunting . GM sees you out they gonna check


It's BS

Totally agree. I bought a lifetime license in 07 and WON’T spend another dime for a “privilege” of any kind. Especially from something that just gets shoved down our throats

Like ever other tax , it'll only go up

To my knowledge, nobody is forcing you to hunt over corn, or hunt hogs or coyotes at night? How’s that being forced down your throat?

If your that concerned about $60 a year, you may need to step back and reevaluate things a little.

Wrong thing to say here buddy. If you can't figure out why everyone is pissed that licenses continue to get more expensive every year, you are the one who needs to reevaluate.

I bet you're pro physical deer tags too.

Everything gets more expensive every year buddy, ridiculous to think yall cry babies are griping about having to spend .16 cents a day to hunt.

It really makes me no difference, we do whatever we need to do here in vinegar bend. With that said, everyone wants to have hunting like other states until it's time to do the things other states do.

So tell me, what are the downsides to physical deer tags?

lots of "advice" from fkn newbies around here.

Because all it is, is government overstep and people who simply roll over will be the first ones to whine when it effects something they are interested in. I haven’t hunted over corn in 15 years it doesn’t appeal to me, so the permit is of no consequence other than government overrreach. And I will shoot a coyote or hog whenever I dang well please.

This is the logic that has allowed the government in this country to get in the shape it is in. Republican and democrat

I’ve got an Out back issued Lifetime License. All privileges included at no additional cost. One key thing you have to agree to before license is issued though. Shut your mouth and don’t post chit on social media about what you kill....PERIOD.

Problem solved.

You think they will be free? There will be a charge tacked on to licenses to make up thousands of physical deer tags and distribute them to thousands of deer hunters in this state. We will tote the bill for it. Blows my mind how people overlook that kind of thing. It's like people don't have sense enough to understand that all of this crap comes at a cost and we will be the ones paying for it.

I liken hunters who want more regulation to white collar liberals. It makes ZERO sense and they still advocate for stuff like physical deer tags, more "privileges" to pay for, more hunting regs and other crap tacked on to the cost of an already increasingly expensive license. It never stops, and regulations never go away, more just get added.

If you want a physical deer tag, get on a computer, pull up excel and make one, wrap it around a main beam, and pretend your in Iowa. But don't impose that crap on everyone.

I think if lease prices and lease availability keep their current trends , dropping the price of a case of beer on a tag here and there is going to be the last thing anybody needs to argue and worry about.

Tags don't have to cost a penny. They can be made out of anything and include whatever required info is requested on them before being attached to the deer.

Ohio DNR does this and it works fine without requiring yet another fee from the government.




But thinking "It's just a few more bucks, you should pay it" is how we continue to go down the path of more mandates.

Perhaps we should have commercial hunting lodge licenses paid to the DCNR. These lodges have to have business licenses, but NONE of that money goes to the DCNR, yet these lodges are in business of hunting the animals that belong to everyone, i.e. "the state." So maybe we need a hunting lodge privilege license of several hundred a year, or a tiered system based on land and number of hunters.

Another great idea would be a Guide/Outfitter Privilege License fee, paid annually. Anyone engaged in the act of guiding, outfitting, helping or assisting said guides and outfitters, at hunting or fishing lodges, would be required to pay their fair share.

Fishing guides are using public waters as a commercial business, freshwater and saltwater. Definitely should make sure they're paying their fair share.

Lot of possibilities for more of these "privilege" fees and licenses.

And anyone who doesn't think the "privilege license" for bait will increase from $15 to something more in just a few years, you're delusional. Someone will come up with how it's "such an impact, with all this corn and bait out there!" and will propose to jack it to $25 or $30 in the name of "conservation." And none of y'all buying it will blink an eye.

Alabama's legislators say they're conservative but they're just like the liberals in D.C.: Impose new fees and mandates, wait a few years, increase it, ask for more, hook you into the "pay your fair share" routine, shame others who don't agree, continually want more, reinforce the socialist "for the good of society!" mantra, and take more and more.

If they don't cost anything and can be made up on our own, I guess I don't have a problem with it, but without a standardized tag issued by the state I don't see how its much different than just an honor system...which is basically what we have now with gamecheck

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