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Re: Neck resizing
[Re: N2TRKYS]
#3341889
02/03/21 01:15 AM
02/03/21 01:15 AM
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3% outdoorsman
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Neck sizing is a waste. Watch Erik Cortina video on YouTube who neck sizes today. The guys that compete at the top level sure don’t. That's actually funny cause full length sizing and bumping the shoulder back .002 is really just a cheap way of neck sizing folks been doing it a long time.the mandrel being dragged through is where inaccuracies are created hence the creation of lee collet die which keeps bullet concentric to bore Alot of people say they are neck sizing while all along they are just barely sizing the case with a full length die.nothing new it's just knowing what your doing. How much are the shoulders bumped back with neck sizing dies? Well if you follow full length die instructions it says adjust die till it hits shell holder but over time people started backing die out further to basically neck size and slightly bump shoulder back if they chose to.not really different than neck sizing then bumping shoulder back with a body die which people will still say they are neck sizing.its not hard call it what you want
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Re: Neck resizing
[Re: N2TRKYS]
#3341890
02/03/21 01:17 AM
02/03/21 01:17 AM
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3% outdoorsman
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I use a full length sizing die and bump the shoulders back 0.002”. Worrying about runout is a waste of time. Not worrying about run out just happens that's there's a easy way to neck size that produces zero run out. no chasing needed
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Re: Neck resizing
[Re: 3% outdoorsman]
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02/03/21 07:35 AM
02/03/21 07:35 AM
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N2TRKYS
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Neck sizing is a waste. Watch Erik Cortina video on YouTube who neck sizes today. The guys that compete at the top level sure don’t. That's actually funny cause full length sizing and bumping the shoulder back .002 is really just a cheap way of neck sizing folks been doing it a long time.the mandrel being dragged through is where inaccuracies are created hence the creation of lee collet die which keeps bullet concentric to bore Alot of people say they are neck sizing while all along they are just barely sizing the case with a full length die.nothing new it's just knowing what your doing. How much are the shoulders bumped back with neck sizing dies? Well if you follow full length die instructions it says adjust die till it hits shell holder but over time people started backing die out further to basically neck size and slightly bump shoulder back if they chose to.not really different than neck sizing then bumping shoulder back with a body die which people will still say they are neck sizing.its not hard call it what you want Folks calls things the wrong thing all the time. One bumps the shoulders back and one doesn’t. Pretty simple.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Neck resizing
[Re: 3% outdoorsman]
#3341932
02/03/21 07:36 AM
02/03/21 07:36 AM
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I use a full length sizing die and bump the shoulders back 0.002”. Worrying about runout is a waste of time. Not worrying about run out just happens that's there's a easy way to neck size that produces zero run out. no chasing needed It doesn’t matter is why I don’t worry about it.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Neck resizing
[Re: 3% outdoorsman]
#3344764
02/06/21 10:50 AM
02/06/21 10:50 AM
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Anyone a little knowledgeable would appreciate what I said and would understand. Should rename yourself n2 turtles your a lil slow Lol. If that makes you feel better then, keep on doing what you’re doing.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Neck resizing
[Re: N2TRKYS]
#3345916
02/07/21 05:01 PM
02/07/21 05:01 PM
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Hangfire
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I use a full length sizing die and bump the shoulders back 0.002”. Worrying about runout is a waste of time. Not worrying about run out just happens that's there's a easy way to neck size that produces zero run out. no chasing needed It doesn’t matter is why I don’t worry about it. Are you saying it doesn’t matter, because if the chamber is cut true, it will self align a bullet that may have runout? Or do you mean you use the lee collet dies? I used to test and adjust my hand loads for runout on a hornady runout tool, and I stopped doing it once I was confident in my die setups, and below a certain runout, you can’t really tell if it’s doing any good. I’m a self taught handloader, I didn’t have a mentor. So I’m always trying to learn and try new ideas. I’ve watched and read so many opinions, and tried different things. But I’m still learning. The technology available to the home reloader is amazing. Like someone posted earlier, Its obvious most runout is from the mandrel being run through the neck. I’ve done some without the mandrel installed. This is where these good Forster dies come into play, to get your good neck tension. And let’s face it, there are some bullets that just aren’t any good for precision shooting.
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Re: Neck resizing
[Re: Hangfire]
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02/07/21 09:21 PM
02/07/21 09:21 PM
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Posts: 14,647 Tuscaloosa Co.
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I use a full length sizing die and bump the shoulders back 0.002”. Worrying about runout is a waste of time. Not worrying about run out just happens that's there's a easy way to neck size that produces zero run out. no chasing needed It doesn’t matter is why I don’t worry about it. Are you saying it doesn’t matter, because if the chamber is cut true, it will self align a bullet that may have runout? Or do you mean you use the lee collet dies? I used to test and adjust my hand loads for runout on a hornady runout tool, and I stopped doing it once I was confident in my die setups, and below a certain runout, you can’t really tell if it’s doing any good. I’m a self taught handloader, I didn’t have a mentor. So I’m always trying to learn and try new ideas. I’ve watched and read so many opinions, and tried different things. But I’m still learning. The technology available to the home reloader is amazing. Like someone posted earlier, Its obvious most runout is from the mandrel being run through the neck. I’ve done some without the mandrel installed. This is where these good Forster dies come into play, to get your good neck tension. And let’s face it, there are some bullets that just aren’t any good for precision shooting. Runout doesn’t matter as much as you may think it does.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Neck resizing
[Re: Ridge Life]
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02/07/21 09:57 PM
02/07/21 09:57 PM
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AU338MAG
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Some may disagree with that ^^^ statement.
Reducing run out is one factor, of many, which results in more accurate handloads.
Last edited by AU338MAG; 02/07/21 09:57 PM.
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