deerman, did you get one or two shots? I ask because Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are two-dose. (28/21 day gaps).

The proof has been round for 400 years. Vaccinations first started with smallpox, using the live virus. Later on, it was discovered you could get vaccinated with a live cowpox virus which is a less virulent form of smallpox. Then science discovered how to use a dead virus as a effective way for humans to develop the antibodies. It is the same scientific principle that is now used for vaccines like polio, rabies, measles, flu, etc. The mRNA technology for vaccinations was developed 30 years ago. The delivery system is identical, except for the virus genome. There is no need for extended "challenge" trials. The clinical trials are to determine possible side effects and the human body having the ability to develop the proper antibodies to fight the virus. The long term effects of covid, especially those who required hospitalization are far worse than anything a vaccination can give you.

By the time it’s available to people my age (40’s) we will know a lot about it’s effectiveness. If what y’all are saying is true (it doesn’t work and is likely to harm you) it will become known soon. I’m not an anti-vaxer. Vaccines have saved untold lives from many illnesses. I worry about something rushed to market, but if a 60,000 person trial doesn’t flush it out, a 60,000,000 person trial will. At that point I can make an educated decision and not “I’ll never take it, if you admit you will you’re a liberal”.

I will say, the prospect of this thing only working for a short time for a non-seasonal virus is not a great thought. If that turns out true it’s going to be a damn mess. As long as at-risk people have a solution things can get mostly back to normal.

Now Bill, how do you come to that conclusion?

Because I don't want to take a vaccine that was only in R&D for a few months when average R&D for a vaccine to come to market is 10 to 15 years, I'm an idiot? Why should I take it when myself, and my whole family have had Covid and , for us, it wasn't bad at all.

I won't tell anyone else, besides my daughter, not to take the vaccine as everyone can make up their own mind but I find it strange that so many people trust something when so little is known about long term side effects.

You're semi correct but still wrong, as usual. There is no proof that it works., yet. Vaccines have only been around for roughly 225 years. If I remember correctly from high school biology, the first vaccine came out right around or just before 1800. But hey, 400 years does sound a whole lot better than 225 yrs. One other thought, if making a working vaccine is such a simple process, why isnt there one for the common cold?????? Same genome family, no successful vaccine....... Why do we even need a vaccine since masks are so effective at preventing the spread?

My employer issued a memo that they recommended taking it, but they would not require it.

Well how does this all make any sense when once the vaccine kills the corona that you can catch it again.... So , you may be a dead man at first infection but survive suffice to say the vaccine worked the 1st time, but then we are still open to multiple chances of dying and sickness from China's killer bug . Bio/ germ warfare was declared on the world by China and we should strike back.

I’ve had covid. Got antibodies. Felt just like the flu for me . Since it’s not a “novel” virus to me anymore, No I will not take a vaccine.

The same people pumping the fear are the same ones selling the cure.

Lots of interesting viewpoints so far. I said I wasn’t taking it but with my dad in a nursing home and being vaccinated next week I figured the only way I was ever gonna get to hug his neck again was if I took it myself. I’m not convinced it works only time will tell that but I figure if the first ones that are vaccinated are medical personnel and first responders and if it starts killing folks then the world will be over anyway.

I keep going back and forth on it. I can tell you this, I don't want Covid again. I'm having more respiratory issues now than I was during my 10-14 day quarantine period. Since I've had it, logic tells me it wouldn't be nearly as bad the 2nd time as it was the first, but I talked to a lady who just got over her 2nd round and she said the 2nd time was just as bad.

I've decided that I will take it. Like you, I've had it and continue to have issues. Yesterday I felt as good as I have felt in years, today I have coughed to the point that it feels like my chest bone has cracked. I guess I over did it yesterday?

That's exactly what's happening to me. Any time I do any physical exertion I have a coughing fit. I coughed pretty much all day yesterday. I got short of breath singing hymns at church yesterday.

I wasn't worried about covid even though I work in it everyday. Got the vaccine because the facility was offering it and there aint shucks to it. I have and do feel fine.

I’ll get it once available. My wife has already taken round 1. I had a long conversation with the surgeon she works with and I trust him. He says to take it. Very liftoffs any downside

I'm eager to get vaccinated. Can't wait to travel freely again.

I’ve traveled freely regardless.

As soon as it's available to me. J Walker and 257, I've enjoyed knowing y'all.

It's not a guarantee if you take it and not a death sentence if you don't. Each individual has to make a decision based on themselves and their families. Why do y'all try to make a pissing contest out of it?

Yep

#1. Before vaccination, there was a process known as variolation. Variolation had been practiced in certain Middle Eastern and African countries hundreds of years before Edward Jenner was able to document the link on how variolation worked. It was his research that led him to the development of a cowpox vaccine to immunize against smallpox.

#2. A working vaccine is easy to develop, once the genome sequence is identified. The first Covid 19 vaccine was developed in January of 2020. By August there were more than 270 potential Covid 19 drugs in clinical trials, as required by governmental organizations. The Modera and Pfizer were the first two to receive the emergency authorization. The bottleneck is the ability to mass produce and distribute the vaccine.

#3. There will never be a single vaccine to immunize against the flu. There are too many mutations of the flu virus. Immunologists study the early outbreaks each year and give drug companies what they believe to be the most virulent forms for the upcoming flu season. Flu and Covid share much of the same genome sequence, but they are not the same. Change up a few RNA codes and the human body has to develop new antibodies.

#4. Masking is not 100% effective. Never has, never will. Studies have shown that covid transmission is most active before a person shows symptoms. Masks are used to help slow down that transmission. Same as hand sanitizing.

Until Covid entered the human chain, not a single person on Earth had the antibody, which is why is has spread so quickly. It is a sneaky little guy. It has to ability to elude the bodies first line of defense. It attaches easily to other cells. Like other respiratory infections it finds a nice home in the lungs. There it starts the process of turning the lungs into useless material that resembles ground glass. After that is starts to blow open blood vessels with microscopic clots which in turn effect other internal organs such as the heart, liver, and kidneys, rendering them to stiff to repair. It continues to elude the human ability to fight infection by triggering a secondary immune reaction. This secondary reaction causes the bodies immune system to go haywire. When this happens, the body starts to attack itself. Lungs fill with fluid, organs shut down, patient dies. This is why I got the vaccination. I'll take a chance at a 95% or better immunization than risk the 2% chance of morbidity.