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by AustinC. 05/21/24 05:01 PM
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: jaredhunts]
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12/30/20 08:06 PM
12/30/20 08:06 PM
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You need to stick with throw and mow. How long have we been doing this other stuff already? In the beginning, people will holler and cry that they dont like it no matter what you do. Give the above set-up 6-7 years like we've done the current system and then see how people like it......I have no doubt that it would get plenty of backlash in the beginning......But I think over time you would find people warming up to it more and more as they see the results and the freedom not to have to worry about some of the nonsense we do now
Last edited by CNC; 12/30/20 08:06 PM.
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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12/30/20 08:24 PM
12/30/20 08:24 PM
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There’s far more to it though and you have to take all of it into consideration…….What do the hunters want and what will make folks happy while at the same time managing the herd in a responsible manner and in a manner that achieves the goals that individual groups want to see accomplished…..Those dates allows for some high end trophy type management while at the same time allows the guy who wants to shoot whatever the freedom to do so as well…..Doe killing is being managed through those dates…….The biggest gripe people are gonna have is not being able to gun hunt the rut but that is by design and is what keep us from overharvesting bucks and will cause us to produce better deer than folks have seen in a long time after a few years of only bow hunting the rut……It will significantly improve the age structure of our buck herd I believe….
These dates are meant to simplify everything while at the same time still managing the aspects that need managing. It will allow for 8 weeks of gun hunting……5 modern and 3 primtive……It will allow folks a chance to hunt Oct 1 when bucks are just breaking up and when folks might be more likely to get a velvet buck…..While that probably doesn’t sound like much to everyone….I promise you that hunters will think its cool as hell when they get a chance to kill one and that will just go toward improving hunter satisfaction……Besides, this is one of the best times to buck hunt and moving the dates back would open up a whole new opportunity for hunters......AND it will do away with all the cumbersome crap we have now
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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12/30/20 08:27 PM
12/30/20 08:27 PM
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And you’re assuming everyone hunts in your central AL zone. Many of us would like a Nov 1 rifle opener and let it close Jan 15 in my area. Be just fine. So see there’s no one size fits all season
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: 257wbymag]
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12/30/20 08:33 PM
12/30/20 08:33 PM
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And you’re assuming everyone hunts in your central AL zone. Many of us would like a Nov 1 rifle opener and let it close Jan 15 in my area. Be just fine. So see there’s no one size fits all season What I proposed IS a one size fit all season......The problem is that people want to micromanage every corner of the state.....but that's what makes it all get complicated......You set one set of dates just like above and roll with it.....There will be pros and cons of it for everyone but it will work out just fine
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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12/30/20 08:47 PM
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This is the thing…….There’s no need to create this one mold where we all have to gun hunt the rut this many days and have the dates perfectly coincide with each individual rut and then try and create different season for every corner of the state based on that cookie cutter mold……You can just put everyone under one umbrella like I proposed and roll with it…..Like I said in my last post, there will be pros and cons for a few unique parts of the state …..In the end though its meant to greatly simplify things…..Everyone wont be able to have their cake and eat it too….but it’s a hell of a lot better than what we’re doing now
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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12/30/20 08:51 PM
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Any particular reason your idea has bow hunting only from Christmas till Feb 1? You realize you just broke every little kids heart that got a gun for Christmas.
What you do today, you have to sleep with tonight.
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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12/30/20 08:51 PM
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How so? Sounds to me like tons of deer being killed. In the processor thread errbodys man is full. This state is not deer deficient as a whole.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: dBmV]
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12/30/20 08:54 PM
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Any particular reason your idea has bow hunting only from Christmas till Feb 1? You realize you just broke every little kids heart that got a gun for Christmas. So that we dont gun hunt the rut.......This is one of the main things that make some of the Midwestern states big buck hot spots......We have deer with the potential here but none of them stand a chance at getting any age on them......Not gun hunting the rut takes care of a lot things.....There's no need in the three buck limit anymore or worrying about how many bucks each hunter is killing. If we're not gun hunting the rut then that alone manages the bucks for us.....It will create a better buck age structure across the board and see more studs being produced as a result.......Get the kid a rifle for his birthday and a new muzzleloader for Christmas.
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
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12/30/20 08:57 PM
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Sure. 🤦🏿 Then using your “logic” then AL should only get 7 days of rifle season altogether if you think we can compete with the Midwest. Wheick we can’t given the lack of grain food
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Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
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12/30/20 08:59 PM
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How so? Sounds to me like tons of deer being killed. In the processor thread errbodys man is full. This state is not deer deficient as a whole. Yhe processor overload is most likely due to less and less hunter processing their own deer. Today's hunter is a far cry from yesterday's hunter. Processors will continue to be overwhelmed until they find a a way to meet the demand.
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: jaredhunts]
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12/30/20 09:00 PM
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You need to stick with throw and mow. HERE HERE! CNC is hereby anointed King of Throw and Mow. And will from this day forward enjoy the title of Sir Throw and Mow.
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Mbrock]
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12/30/20 09:06 PM
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CNC, what’s not working? There’s deer every dang where. Landowners have the option to decide to pull the trigger or not depending on their objectives. Mandating trophy management by prohibiting people from hunting with efficient weapons in a state with as many deer as we have would not be a very popular thing to do. There aren't deer everywhere though......There are good populations in some spots but we're a far cry from deer everywhere......We are nowhere near reaching the potential of what our state could produce......Want to talk about what's not popular.......Game Check is a disaster.....The same things that are trying to be accomplished could be achieved through different means though.....The "different means" is what I'm proposing. I'm saying it will greatly simplify things AND produce better end results......None of this strong handed enforcement of a bunch of rules and things to report ....and I'm not "mandating trophy management".....I'm saying that better buck management will be a by product of the season dates.....We're manageing total buck harvest, doe harvest, buck age structure, etc......all wrapped into one for the purpose of simplifying the process.....bow hunting more simplifies things and does away with the need to regulate and keep tabs on everything so heavy handed
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
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12/30/20 09:14 PM
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CNC, what’s not working? There’s deer every dang where. Landowners have the option to decide to pull the trigger or not depending on their objectives. Mandating trophy management by prohibiting people from hunting with efficient weapons in a state with as many deer as we have would not be a very popular thing to do. There aren't deer everywhere though......There are good populations in some spots we're a far cry from deer everywhere......We are nowhere near reaching the potential of what our state could produce......Want to talk about what's not popular.......Game Check is a disaster.....The same things that are trying to be accomplished could be achieved through different means though.....The "different means" is what I'm proposing. I'm saying it will greatly simplify things AND produce better end results......None of this strong handed enforcement of a bunch of rules and things to report ....and I'm not "mandating trophy management".....I'm saying that better buck management will be a by product of the season dates.....We're manageing total harvest, doe harvest, buck age structure, etc......all wrapped into one for the purpose of simplifying the process Game check helps identify the areas with less harvest, and with other data, can be used to adjust season dates and structure accordingly. That’s why we now have different zones with season length and antlerless date differences. One set of season dates does not work from Huntsville to Mobile. That’s about all I’m going to say. Your comments are noted. 😁
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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12/30/20 09:18 PM
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Isnt a 3 buck limit already “mandating trophy management”?
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