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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3230523
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1) Disk twice 2) Cultivator 1 trip right before planting 3) Seed/Fert. 4) Drag it in. I don't spray because it would cost too much money. No significant weed problems as long as I plant after the weather changes i.e. this week..... and has always looked good.

Picked up a 25ft. Cultipacker so I am going to try that as the last step this year and see what happens looking to save some time on the big plots


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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3230540
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for those of you that use a drag harrow, do you find it drags your seed off the plots?

Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3230558
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No - but it could possibly bury at least some portion of the seed too deep if the soil is very loose. That's one of the reasons I want to try a cultipacker. My soil gets like powder after I work it several times.

I also have better looking plots if I drag one pass then seed then drag again a 2nd time to cover. Don't always do that but it is better.


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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3230569
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Drag with the gate to my trailer

Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: Goatkiller] #3230570
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller
I also have better looking plots if I drag one pass then seed then drag again a 2nd time to cover. Don't always do that but it is better.


same, but will put fertilizer out before dragging the first time. if rain is coming, we'll leave small seeds on top, without dragging...if no rain for a few days, we'll drag over small seeds to keep birds from finding them as fast.


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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3230597
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8ft. LMC cultipacker... breaks up clogs, compacts the seed bed and will cut down on discing. a must for small seeds like clover.

dragging chain and cutting in seed with a disc is burying seed and $.


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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3230742
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14' field cultivator to incorporate litter and then drill. I made a drag out of two pipes welded together (One inside the other to add weight) and it works well behind the disc in sandy soil.


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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: Goatkiller] #3230778
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller
1) Disk twice 2) Cultivator 1 trip right before planting 3) Seed/Fert. 4) Drag it in. I don't spray because it would cost too much money. No significant weed problems as long as I plant after the weather changes i.e. this week..... and has always looked good.

Picked up a 25ft. Cultipacker so I am going to try that as the last step this year and see what happens looking to save some time on the big plots


Disk, drag, seed then cultipack will ensure very little seed gets buried too deep. I would too sow any tiny seed like clover and pack again. Clover put in with everything else tends to get buried to deep if you have really powdery/soft soil

Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3231377
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Straight gain on disc then a cultipacker


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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3231515
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Disk spread seed and fertilizer drag with piece of heavy duty chain link fence 5’-6’ long. Cheap easy and effective.

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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3231749
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I bought some 6AWG fencing which had to be ordered because most fence don't carry this heavy gage and overlapped them to make the drag over about 6' wide as opposed to 4' to save time and add weight. The one pictured is over 10 years old so they last awhile. Had to buy a 100' roll of wire. One person can not lift on a trailer if you have to move it around.
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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3231789
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My ghetto drag is a couple of pallets.


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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3231834
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After discing, I will spread lime and fertlizer and then drag to smooth everything. Then I will seed the plot and drag again. Been doing it that way for 20 years and its worked well so far. I've used everything from a drag mat for topdressing golf course greens to a piece of chain link fence and even to a drag I had a friend of mine weld for me last year. All have worked well but I would like to have a cultipacker one day if possible.

Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: muzziehead] #3231981
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Originally Posted by muzziehead
I bought some 6AWG fencing which had to be ordered because most fence don't carry this heavy gage and overlapped them to make the drag over about 6' wide as opposed to 4' to save time and add weight. The one pictured is over 10 years old so they last awhile. Had to buy a 100' roll of wire. One person can not lift on a trailer if you have to move it around.
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That will work right there.


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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: Geno] #3232010
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Originally Posted by Geno
My ghetto drag is a couple of pallets.


Done that, too.


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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3232272
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My ghetto drag is whichever box springs or mattress I find on the side of the road. Will leave it by the plot until it rots. I am certain chainlink or a purchased drag would work better.

Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3232277
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Originally Posted by ALFisher
for those of you that use a drag harrow, do you find it drags your seed off the plots?


only if the field isn't clean, ie: the drag gets choked down with remaining grass/weeds that didn't get chopped up good and turned under. In that case, yes, it well collect seeds and move them out of the planting zone.

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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3232368
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I use 3 large tires chained together and attached to a landscape timber that I drag after disking, does a nice smoothing/firming job and you'll never wear it out. I also have a cultipacker that works well after seed is spread.


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Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: Ragin-Cajun] #3232489
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Originally Posted by Ragin-Cajun
8ft. LMC cultipacker... breaks up clogs, compacts the seed bed and will cut down on discing. a must for small seeds like clover.

dragging chain and cutting in seed with a disc is burying seed and $.


[img]https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo?album_id=5922438589&photo_id=503259781748[/img]


Ragin,

Is that 8 foot LMC have the 9.5 inch or 15 inch wheels. If the 9.5, does it get the job done?

Re: best way to smooth/prepare seedbed after discing [Re: ALFisher] #3232806
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Originally Posted by ALFisher
Originally Posted by Ragin-Cajun
8ft. LMC cultipacker... breaks up clogs, compacts the seed bed and will cut down on discing. a must for small seeds like clover.

dragging chain and cutting in seed with a disc is burying seed and $.


[img]https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo?album_id=5922438589&photo_id=503259781748[/img]


Ragin,

Is that 8 foot LMC have the 9.5 inch or 15 inch wheels. If the 9.5, does it get the job done?


i have the 16 inch wheels. model CP-96-16

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