It most often times takes a lot more than just one sentence to explain a whole concept to someone and it would simply be a futile effort to try to express to them the thoughts and thinking behind these concepts in just one small statement............


but I get what your saying...... Dammit!!@!!.....almost!

Let's talk about the soil structure in my truck bed for dam minute here.

To me, you know it just seems to have everything needed to grow winter wheat. I've found the best germination occurs if I just don't try to save any of that spilled seed by throwing it out on the dirt. If I just pile enough seed in the corner that seems to that works better.

I did that last season when I ran out of time to clean it out. I went through the car wash a couple times and dam that did it. I gotta say that was a success.

SO - what do y'all think?

If I shoot a deer in the truck bed and hit the gas tank do you think the gas tank will explode? My food plots look great but it's too much work when you can just get by with a few piles.

See I'm really looking into promoting this idea of a Portable Food Plot. I think I"m really onto something here.. maybe? Well, look - I'm right. I know it. So anyway.... If I tossed a box of Rid-X over in there and drive in a heavy rain would that distribute some microbial microorganisms evenly or should I just sprinkle it around with a little more care?

Oh, hell I'm rambling

CNC take it from here......

Sure......Do you have any more of whatever it is you are smoking this evening???....Asking for a friend.......

Is Dickweed high in Protein? Asking for a friend.

No.....its mostly just full of chit.....

There's been a many quality food plot born in a truck bed.

Yea my point was the same I think as you stated earlier. You can throw the basic 3-way food plot mix out on concrete and if you throw enough of it and thick enough......

It will Germinate and it WILL GROW. I have had wheat seed sprout in the corners of my truck bed and stay green nearly all winter.

Weeds suck nutrients from the soil that the desirable plants therefore cannot use. So what has happened in my estimation is that there has been a push to just change the meaning of a desirable plant to include Weeds. That way the advocates of this process don't need to actually do anything.... and most importantly the measure of success is more than easily attainable. Just let the weeds grow. Nothing hard about that.

The measure of success = "it's green". We are just looking for color. CNC will say that's not the case. You can decide. What is called a microbial buffet looks to me like nothing more than a layer of thatch. They make a tool to get rid of that for a reason. Its called a dethatcher. You might have used one on your yard at some point. Its where problems can start that might ruin your desirable plants, a.k.a. your lawn.

Throwing wheat seed into dead grass isn't rocket science. This is exactly the same result as throwing rye grass on your Bermuda lawn so that it "looks green" all winter.

And someone is calling this some type of groundbreaking phenomenon.

It ain't. Never was and never will be.

I’m honestly having a hard time trying to figure out the point you’re trying to make……Quit bogarting that chit man……Puff, puff, pass……

But to try and address some of things you’re saying…..I consider success as accomplishing the same or better results by using a third of the inputs in the form of time, labor, and cost……I consider success being the much more efficient use of the synthetic fertilizers I apply instead of soil erosion taking much of it to the ditch…..I consider success growing my soil holding capacity for water and nutrients and not having them leach away as fast as I can ass them…….I consider success being a much more resilient and productive stand of vegetation able to withstand “stress”…..I consider success being seedlings that jump out the ground with vigor………I consider success being able to go fertilizer free……..I consider success as having my planting be as simplistic as broadcasting seed and walking away…..

Furthermore……lets separate this out in the fall and summer plots when you want to talk about growing “weeds”…..I grow “weeds” in the summer and cereal grains in the winter….However, a diverse stand of summer native vegetation can pretty much be seen as one entity. The individual plants work together with one another to form the bigger ecosystem. In a healthy soil environment, they’re attached to one another through mycorrhizal fungi connections. So one plant is not robbing the other one of moisture and nutrients…..they are all helping each other by preforming an individual function that helps the “whole”…..This is nature’s way.

Dispute this picture and why no one wants their soil to look like this when you talk about all the issues that "thatch" will cause.......

Our ground is so red you can’t turn it that dark no matter how much seed you toss out over however many years you want to do that.

I actually thought that picture was the ass end of a dead hog laying beside a scrape.
Just now realized it is a shovel.

Organic matter is important in heaver clay soil as well……….

I know it is. But this Decatur silt loam and clay is tough booger.

I'll be damned....it does look like that dudn't it......

Hey! One sentence! 👍

Well dang….what happened to Goatkiller??…..I was hoping he was gonna put up more a fight than that…..He must have started pulling a cork too early this evening….

CNC on Aug 16th= "I think this will be my last post for awhile.....I'll keep my reasons to myself. Y'all enjoy"

hahah. I don't care at all. I'm just bored working midnight shift in west TX. Thought I'd pick on ya a little.

Just my 2cents. Unless its unable to be reached, put it IN the dirt if you want to grow it.

Time is relative Einstein......

I'm back CNC I deal with people that can't follow logical steps all the time so I'm use to doing this.

You grow weeds in the summer, cut it down in the fall and overseed it. This is ground breaking stuff? Not hardly. I do it to my yard every winter. It works and the seed grows.

However, all this nonsense about letting weeds grow is useless dribble. It's ok. Nobody is making anyone plant summer plots and if you want to think that letting weeds grow all summer improves the actual nutrients in your soil then we will never agree on that. Weeds rob nutrients from desirable plants. That's fact. You have just changed the meaning of a desirable plant to include some weeds that are growing. Do deer eat weeds? Yea. Some of them. They walk through your summer weeds and nip at them. They nip at something everywhere they go. That's what they do.

Here is a logical and factual scenario. I broke a piece of fallow ground that I have probably been cutting once a Summer for years. Maybe 10-15 years. Nothing else I just clean it up about this time every year and let it grow up in weeds. The only reason is I don't want the Sweetgums to take it over. And it is a good little field for the kids to ride 4 wheelers in. Well, I planted it this past summer, in sorghum. i did a soil sample. Mailed it in and well..... It was CHIT. Needed a bunch of inputs.

Reconcile that with your summer weed field BS. There was so much thatch built up on it my disk nearly got clogged with big balls of grass.

Weeds are not the "right way". It is an "easy way" that requires less inputs and work. That's the biggest benefit I can see. If you plant a corn field and produce 150 bushel an acre you produced 8,400 pounds of food per acre. 4 acres produces 33,600 pounds of food. 4 acres of cutover or your weed filled summer plots produces some food. But nowhere near those numbers. If some of us want to plant a corn field and kill the weed competition that's not the "wrong way". We are not killing our soil. We are not destroying our soil. To say that is completely asinine. If 257 has a field that produces 200 bushel/acre corn you cannot tell me the soil is dead or does not contain the appropriate nutrients. That dog won't hunt. Does the farmer have to replace nutrients and spend money and work. Yes. Hail Yes. If you don't want to do that... fine with me. But your way letting weeds grow isn't the "right way". The best thing I have ever done for my wildlife is put some of my ground back into acgriculture. I have more quail, rabbits, doves in the fall.... and all types of vermin running around beforehand I was previously in short supply of.

Throw and Mow is a gimmick that does work. When you think about how many hunters are out there....Put a number in your head. Next, think about how many of those hunters own a tractor and a bunch of equipment. Maybe a fraction of the overall hunter number. Right?

Now you tell me - is there a market out there for Throw and Mow @ $15 a sack at Wally World?

Hail yes. There is money to be made here. A LOT of money. A 25lb bag of Imperial No Plow seed costs nearly $70 at Sportsman's Guide. Just about all this stuff is $12-15 a 5lb bag. Does a 1/4 acre. That's about right for a lot of people's plots.