what information could possibly be released that would exonerate the officers?

It takes a sick person to make excuses for those cops. They should all spend the next 20 years in prison. The dude was cuffed, there’s no justifiable reason to keep your knee on a human beings neck for 9 minutes when he is already detained. The POS will get what’s coming

Autopsy results. All about Autopsy.

Maybe that the cause of death had nothing to do with the actions of the police. Maybe a drug overdose cause he swallowed 12 lortab or something when the cops showed up. I dont know, just hopeful the truth will come out with an autopsy and wrongdoers will be punished to the extent they are responsible. Hate that someone lost their life and others lifes are changed. But I will wait until all the facts are in like I would hope people would do if I was ever accused of anything.

I am one that always calls for more evidence or to wait and see what all evidence is. I argued on here that, even after jury verdicts where someone was acquitted that we didn’t get to see all the evidence l, just what theme is showed us. Casey Anthony is an example, I argued that the system worked the way it suppose to work and while the court of public opinion might have convicted her, the evidence wasn’t there according to the jury.

If there wasn’t clear video evidence in this case, I would still tell that way. But, I’ve watched the entire 9 minute video. There is no excuse. Nothing he did earlier justified that response. It was either callous disregard for human life, or it was retaliation by the officer. Both are wrong.

Can you give me any legitimate reason why the officer stayed on his neck that long after he was compliant?

Exacty, all of you are saying that his knee on his neck killed him. 87 Dixieboy is a MD if I am not mistaken and he says that pressure on only one side of the neck would not have killed him. Are you one of the ones that knows better? Like he said, if the man was basically choked out and could not breathe, that is another situation entirely but will be determined by the autopsy. Like I said in my first post, let's wait and see what the facts are and we will not know anything until the autopsy results are in. I would agree excessive force was used but if that force caused this man's death, remains to be seen and proven which is easy enough to do on an autopsy table.

What he said was he didn’t die from lack of blood flow to the brain. He didn’t say he didn’t die from the knee on the neck.

I cant give you any information but would hope if the officer was in the wrong and doing something he was not trained or expected to do, other officers would have noticed and acted.

You as an attorney should know that there is a big difference between excessive force and murder. It has to be proven that the excessive force used by the officer caused the man's death before you can say that the officer should be charged with murder. Nobody is disagreeing that excessive force was used.

Have I said he should be charged with murder? No, I have not. Not all deaths at the hands of another are murder. I’ve said he is responsible for the death.

My apologies DK, this thread has gotten so long and so many are saying he murdered the poor guy that I thought you were one of the ones that had. Thanks for the correction.

Just to clarify, he wasn’t jogging, and he was killed because he charged an armed man.

I don’t understand why some of y’all are taking the cops side and saying let’s wait till the autopsy comes,he was combative so that’s why he did it,it was drugs,who cares,when this man quit breathing the cop should have gotten off of him and got him some help or helped him,same goes for the other cops around him,you just don’t let a man go unconditionally and stop breathing and still sit on him for several minutes and you also don’t just sit there and watch and do nothing.

The story is the guy was jogging,stopped to look in a house being built went back to jogging and these guys pulled up and confronted him armed,he did what he thought he needed to do in that situation to protect himself,would you just lay down if a stranger confronted you with a gun or defend yourself?

I’ve read this whole thread. Lots of common sense here and some not so much. I’ve been in Law Enforcement for over 20yrs and have more hours of training then most people could imagine. I can say for a fact that we have NEVER and I repeat NEVER have been taught to use a knee to the neck in defensive tactics. Knee on the head to subdue a subject, yes. But never on the neck. It makes me sick to my stomach to watch those videos and to know that the other officers just stood there and watched. Whether the knee to the neck killed the guy will be determined later, but for now the officers involved did absolutely nothing to help this human when he was begging for help. You could hear the distress in his voice. I mean a grown man begging for him mom. That human new he was dying and no one helped. So much wrong in this incident.

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Do some research before you type. First of all, the house was not being built. It was a fully constructed house that people had been living in that was having a section of the home adjacent to the garage remodeled. The video shows Ahmed casually walking up the street (not jogging) and as he approaches the house, he looks around 360 degrees to make sure nobody is watching him then tuns and sprints across the yard, up the driveway and into the house. 3 min later, a neighbor across the road sees him exiting the home and yells as him as he comes out and Ahmed takes off running like he's got pack of wild dogs after him. Not jogging, sprinting to exit the area as quickly as possible and to avoid being caught. Not jogging, he's giving it everything hes got, like he's running a 40 at the NFL combine. All of this is before anyone is chasing or in any way trying to detain him. When they all load up into vehicles and finally catch up to him, yes he is jogging down the road. They get in front of him and tell him to stop, at which time he leaves the side of the road he is "jogging" on and sprints across the front of the vehicle to the opposite side of the road and begins fighting for control of the shotgun. As all this is unfolding, the man with the shotgun is holding it at arms with the barrel up and it is not pointed at Ahmed in any way. All these vids were posted in the thread on this. I'd hope that you would not be stupid enough to attack someone holding a loaded shotgun...that is why he was shot and died. It can be argued that they should not have tried to stop him etc but it was not cold blooded murder. They did not drive up and shoot the kid as he was jogging down the side of the road. If they were planning to do that, why didnt they just shoot him before the altercation? Guns were present but nothing was pointed at him until the struggle began. Should they have chased him down? NO. I honestly do not think he would have been shot had he just stayed on his side of the road or turned and run back in the other direction.

Also, news reported yesterday that Floyd had a pulse and was breathing when EMS loaded him up in the ambulance so he was still alive after the officer got off of him and at the time he was loaded into the ambulance, if (and this is a big if in today's news cycle) the news was reporting that correctly. It is all senseless and I also did not see any type of serious resistance on Floyd's part as it was reported either. My question is how and why did the officer end up kneeling on his neck to start with???

The other officers appeared to just be walking around not even paying attention to what was going on and that is wrong on multiple levels.

Minneapolis Star-Tribune says no pulse:

https://www.startribune.com/first-r...before-he-was-pronounced-dead/570806682/

Another report says fire department officials said no pulse:

https://patch.com/minnesota/southwestminneapolis/george-floyd-had-no-pulse-when-put-ambulance-report


Dude was out. They worked for 90 minutes on him but he was dead under that cop's knee.

Aint the man dead?
Was the cops doing what they were trained NOT to do, because it will lead to death?