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Re: Covid Numbers [Re: bama1971] #3115176
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Originally Posted by bama1971
Sorry you’re out of work SuperSpike

Don’t know what else to tell you

Don’t need you to tell me anything but to have as many people out of work as we do in the country and people act like everything is just fine, kinda pisses me off a little. The ones that are still working act like the government shutting everything down because of a scam isn’t a problem. We’ve lost more than jobs because of this bs. We’ve lost a lot of freedom too. Glad your working. Nothing towards you personally.

Re: Covid Numbers [Re: SuperSpike] #3115177
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Originally Posted by SuperSpike
Originally Posted by bama1971
Sorry you’re out of work SuperSpike

Don’t know what else to tell you

Don’t need you to tell me anything but to have as many people out of work as we do in the country and people act like everything is just fine, kinda pisses me off a little. The ones that are still working act like the government shutting everything down because of a scam isn’t a problem. We’ve lost more than jobs because of this bs. We’ve lost a lot of freedom too. Glad your working. Nothing towards you personally.


I’m working every day to make sure about 40 people have food on their families tables. Working harder than before to find places for them to work

I hate that some can’t work

Re: Covid Numbers [Re: Geno] #3115178
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Getting a check? Nope, and no stimulus check either..which Id bet you snapped up instantly. And no small business check.

And if youre out of work..you must be getting unemployment.The NORMAL plus the $600 a week the DEMS like Nancy Pelosi lobbied for and added?

By the way, That is where half the inflation and deficit is coming from. A bunch of hypocrites on here for sure who cashed those checks and now are lecturing on the deficit and inflation..How rich. slap loco

Sorry your out of work, honestly, but most everything is OPEN in Alabama now. 95% or more of businesses.

But NO we get no checks.

However we do try to manage our finances to not get overwhelmed if something unexpected arises.

Heck we gave our tenants a rent holiday for a month so please, Im not going to be lectured.


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Re: Covid Numbers [Re: ] #3115181
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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Getting a check? Nope, and no stimulus check either..which Id bet you snapped up instantly. And no small business check.

And if youre out of work..you must be getting unemployment.The NORMAL plus the $600 a week the DEMS like Nancy Pelosi lobbied for and added?

By the way, That is where half the inflation and deficit is coming from. A bunch of hypocrites on here for sure who cashed those checks and now are lecturing on the deficit and inflation..How rich. slap loco

Sorry your out of work, honestly, but most everything is OPEN in Alabama now. 95% or more of businesses.

But NO we get no checks.

However we do try to manage our finances to not get overwhelmed if something unexpected arises.

Heck we gave our tenants a rent holiday for a month so please, Im not going to be lectured.


You’re not gona lecture me either bud. I’ve been out of work for 6 wks and took 5 weeks before I seen anything. I agree about the hypocrisy in the spending in Washington. I’m 100% with you on that. Did I cash my stimulus? You dang right I did. I have 2 kids at home and while I’m waiting on the state to pay me back the money I’ve paid in for decades I’ve got to feed those kids. Don’t get too giddy about the housing market either. That bubble will pop again.

Re: Covid Numbers [Re: Geno] #3115184
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Wasn't the stock market dropping before the us lockdown?


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Re: Covid Numbers [Re: CAL] #3115185
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The numbers are NOT accurate. It’s MOSTLY bullschit. The virus is real but the politics behind it are even more real and far more damaging.


Exactly....how are the death/infection numbers validated. Honestly the folks that benifit from this most could put out whatever numbers they want. You can say it's from CDC, etc...I will never trust the numbers

Re: Covid Numbers [Re: Geno] #3115186
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I need to tell my 200 small business customers (slightly less now) that most everything is open and back to normal. They, nor their bank accounts, seem to have gotten the memo. I just got April's numbers and they make March look like an economic windfall. The only segment of businesses in my portfolio that seemed to get through those two months ok were Hardware Stores. Everything else from auto repair to restraunts to salons to manufacturing took a downturn that looked like a free fall. They'll be glad to know all the hype and manufactured numbers were worth their sacrifice and that they will be back to normal , in regards to revenue and profit, immediately.


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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Getting a check? Nope, and no stimulus check either..which Id bet you snapped up instantly. And no small business check.

And if youre out of work..you must be getting unemployment.The NORMAL plus the $600 a week the DEMS like Nancy Pelosi lobbied for and added?

By the way, That is where half the inflation and deficit is coming from. A bunch of hypocrites on here for sure who cashed those checks and now are lecturing on the deficit and inflation..How rich. slap loco

Sorry your out of work, honestly, but most everything is OPEN in Alabama now. 95% or more of businesses.

But NO we get no checks.

However we do try to manage our finances to not get overwhelmed if something unexpected arises.

Heck we gave our tenants a rent holiday for a month so please, Im not going to be lectured.



It's interesting the positions that people take. You praise the shutdown and tell those who are out of work to suck it up?


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April was only a good month for stocks because they all bottomed out middle of march. Airlines, restaurants, oil, hotels, car manufacturers, on and on dropped 40 to 50 percent towards the end of march. Most are still close to half or two thirds value. April was a good month for buying but its not even close to where it was.

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The 18 people my wife had to fire last monday would disagree with the booming economy theory as well.

Re: Covid Numbers [Re: TickaTicka] #3115242
05/03/20 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TickaTicka
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Getting a check? Nope, and no stimulus check either..which Id bet you snapped up instantly. And no small business check.

And if youre out of work..you must be getting unemployment.The NORMAL plus the $600 a week the DEMS like Nancy Pelosi lobbied for and added?

By the way, That is where half the inflation and deficit is coming from. A bunch of hypocrites on here for sure who cashed those checks and now are lecturing on the deficit and inflation..How rich. slap loco

Sorry your out of work, honestly, but most everything is OPEN in Alabama now. 95% or more of businesses.

But NO we get no checks.

However we do try to manage our finances to not get overwhelmed if something unexpected arises.

Heck we gave our tenants a rent holiday for a month so please, Im not going to be lectured.



It's interesting the positions that people take. You praise the shutdown and tell those who are out of work to suck it up?


Nope .I dont praise the shutdown at all. Shut down the big cities like NYC, DC , Boston..yes..I can see that. They should have shut down the dam subways there IMO.

Alabama ? with its sparse population and no real public transit system nor huge cities..a different approach.

Dont spin my words. Im just stating the actual numbers and that false ones were put up here.

By the way it is why folks wont post here but 6 or 7 of you. As anyone who disagrees cant say anything. Youve all run the doctors off, the nurses off..like you did the lawyers and biologists on here.

It is really insane.

Ill get my medical advise from DRs and medical professionals..not credit card processors, or Geno..

wait didnt yall run him off here too over his wife with some guy with cocaine and child porn pics..Now hes the aldeer epidimologst. Or was that a different Geno? No..Im pretty sure..same one.

Wow..I guess he went to med school in those 2 years. slap

Jeez some of yall need to give it a rest. Like I said your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Same 5 to 7 guys..non stop.... Guys,,its pretty much opening up here...it is OK. Time to get to work.

good luck and yall stay safe. thumbup




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Re: Covid Numbers [Re: ] #3115324
05/03/20 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Originally Posted by SuperSpike
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Numbers posted on here incorrectly:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/


Those arent the actual numbers on the CDC site at all . Those are the Provisional deaths, where the Death Certificate is recieved showing COVID as the cause and is the PROVISIONAL numbers.

People arent getting processed and death certificates sent out the minute they die. People are actually being stored in refridgerated trucks. They havent been processed yet, hence the discrepency.

provisional:
[prəˈviZHənl]
ADJECTIVE
arranged or existing for the present, possibly to be changed later.

These are the real numbers from the CDC:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

Though it now appears to be 67500 deaths i just saw on TV.

Jeez...sorry it is worse then the flu but luckily not as bad as they projected,..however it is already above President Trumps last projections and yesterday total deaths was one of the highest. Around 3000 deaths in 24 hours.

Luckily for us here it seem to be cities with a lot of public transportation systems ( subways, buses) doing badly. Densely populated areas, not sparsely populated ones.

However I dont quite understand the tin foil hat, non stop conspiracy theory BS on here lately.

Someone here is even saying it is less then 13000 deaths with some crack pot facebook video as proof.

Yeah..some idiot said it on facebook and the internet ..so that must be true. Even though it is from a #debunkfauci account. slap

We would always believe that on here in the past right? Hail no we wouldnt..but if it supports your argument ..post the BS up.

The truth is a lot of folks are dying from this. A few members from this very site have lost family who are shocked at you all just playing it down, acting like the numbers are wrong as the numbers are way over what you said they would be. They wont even post on here as a few of you jump on anyone disputing your nonsense.

At first you guys said It was going to be less then the average flu year of 20,000 to 30,000 deaths. Well its is already double or triple that.

And it has surpassed the worse flu year ever recorded. It has killed 60,000 people in one month and is more then the worse influenza deaths recorded in 12 months.

And it is still going strong in places , other then here luckily.

But Im sorry to burst your bubble.. but the numbers are not wrong. You guys were.

I remember some of you posting when the numbers prove folks to be wrong..WILL THEY ADMIT IT?

I guess not..instead they will say the NUMBERS are wrong..not them. slap

How rich and hypocritical. SMDH

Some of yall used to act rational and intelligent but this thing is making you look a little crazy. Honestly. Irrational for sure.

By the way..just about everything is open except tattoo parlors, nail places and hair salons.

So Im pretty sure not many of you are getting manicures or tatting up...so go on out enjoy life.

Stay safe and have fun. The weather is nice so get off the keyboard and enjoy life. Im not going to argue on here. Heck most of us hate even posting on here about the virus because of all the craziness on here over it.

Things are back open after only 25 days you should be happy. Lets all get back to work and life, make money and look at this in the rear view mirror.

ODO


So I’m assuming you think that destroying the economy, people’s livelihoods and futures was worth it. I’m also assuming you’re waiting on the next line of instructions/restrictions from the government so you can make your next move in life.


Economy ruined? Best stock month since 1987 this April.

We are starting 3 spec houses. Our money. I think the economy will rebound right away. My stocks look fine. Just alot of over reaction from folks on the internet to me.

We had agents calling with BUYERS ready to sign a contract on the pre construction. Housing shortage in North Alabama for sure.

People going back to work it will rebound just fine.

Lay off the dems koolaid.


Eat that ice cream Nancy... you've gotten out of touch and it doesn't play well.

Re: Covid Numbers [Re: Geno] #3115331
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To copy a quote from Mark Twain. “ It’s actually a whole lot easier to fool people, than it is to try to convince people they were fooled”.

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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Originally Posted by TickaTicka
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Getting a check? Nope, and no stimulus check either..which Id bet you snapped up instantly. And no small business check.

And if youre out of work..you must be getting unemployment.The NORMAL plus the $600 a week the DEMS like Nancy Pelosi lobbied for and added?

By the way, That is where half the inflation and deficit is coming from. A bunch of hypocrites on here for sure who cashed those checks and now are lecturing on the deficit and inflation..How rich. slap loco

Sorry your out of work, honestly, but most everything is OPEN in Alabama now. 95% or more of businesses.

But NO we get no checks.

However we do try to manage our finances to not get overwhelmed if something unexpected arises.

Heck we gave our tenants a rent holiday for a month so please, Im not going to be lectured.



It's interesting the positions that people take. You praise the shutdown and tell those who are out of work to suck it up?


Nope .I dont praise the shutdown at all. Shut down the big cities like NYC, DC , Boston..yes..I can see that. They should have shut down the dam subways there IMO.

Alabama ? with its sparse population and no real public transit system nor huge cities..a different approach.

Dont spin my words. Im just stating the actual numbers and that false ones were put up here.

By the way it is why folks wont post here but 6 or 7 of you. As anyone who disagrees cant say anything. Youve all run the doctors off, the nurses off..like you did the lawyers and biologists on here.

It is really insane.

Ill get my medical advise from DRs and medical professionals..not credit card processors, or Geno..

wait didnt yall run him off here too over his wife with some guy with cocaine and child porn pics..Now hes the aldeer epidimologst. Or was that a different Geno? No..Im pretty sure..same one.

Wow..I guess he went to med school in those 2 years. slap

Jeez some of yall need to give it a rest. Like I said your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Same 5 to 7 guys..non stop.... Guys,,its pretty much opening up here...it is OK. Time to get to work.

good luck and yall stay safe. thumbup





I've been consistent on this. You've been a Pollyanna.

There are people who hate America, they've been the champions of shutting down, something you've defended adimantly.

My MD buddies and colleagues have all been on my side. The numbers of covid are a lie.

Patients with metastasic cancer, congestive heart failure and stroke have been listed as covid deaths. These large hospital systems have forced their MDs to list these deaths as such because of dollars. That's why other causes of deaths are diving.


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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Originally Posted by TickaTicka
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Getting a check? Nope, and no stimulus check either..which Id bet you snapped up instantly. And no small business check.

And if youre out of work..you must be getting unemployment.The NORMAL plus the $600 a week the DEMS like Nancy Pelosi lobbied for and added?

By the way, That is where half the inflation and deficit is coming from. A bunch of hypocrites on here for sure who cashed those checks and now are lecturing on the deficit and inflation..How rich. slap loco

Sorry your out of work, honestly, but most everything is OPEN in Alabama now. 95% or more of businesses.

But NO we get no checks.

However we do try to manage our finances to not get overwhelmed if something unexpected arises.

Heck we gave our tenants a rent holiday for a month so please, Im not going to be lectured.



It's interesting the positions that people take. You praise the shutdown and tell those who are out of work to suck it up?


Nope .I dont praise the shutdown at all. Shut down the big cities like NYC, DC , Boston..yes..I can see that. They should have shut down the dam subways there IMO.

Alabama ? with its sparse population and no real public transit system nor huge cities..a different approach.

Dont spin my words. Im just stating the actual numbers and that false ones were put up here.

By the way it is why folks wont post here but 6 or 7 of you. As anyone who disagrees cant say anything. Youve all run the doctors off, the nurses off..like you did the lawyers and biologists on here.

It is really insane.

Ill get my medical advise from DRs and medical professionals..not credit card processors, or Geno..

wait didnt yall run him off here too over his wife with some guy with cocaine and child porn pics..Now hes the aldeer epidimologst. Or was that a different Geno? No..Im pretty sure..same one.

Wow..I guess he went to med school in those 2 years. slap

Jeez some of yall need to give it a rest. Like I said your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Same 5 to 7 guys..non stop.... Guys,,its pretty much opening up here...it is OK. Time to get to work.

good luck and yall stay safe. thumbup





DO NOT belittle people that are out of work. PERIOD. Analyzing the numbers is one thing. Posting, word for word as you did is NOT acceptable. UNDERSTAND?


I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.




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Re: Covid Numbers [Re: SuperSpike] #3115341
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Originally Posted by SuperSpike
Originally Posted by bama1971
Sorry you’re out of work SuperSpike

Don’t know what else to tell you

Don’t need you to tell me anything but to have as many people out of work as we do in the country and people act like everything is just fine, kinda pisses me off a little. The ones that are still working act like the government shutting everything down because of a scam isn’t a problem. We’ve lost more than jobs because of this bs. We’ve lost a lot of freedom too. Glad your working. Nothing towards you personally.



Don’t worry Superspike he said like 2 days ago he was done arguing with us morons. He’ll move along shortly.

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I wonder how many folks will align themselves with the type of businesses deemed essential. If they don't they might be dumb. If I weren't essential, I'd bail in a heartbeat. Curious as to what that might mean on a greater scale.


Been here long enough to go from "bring 'da pain" to " bring 'da pain meds.
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We stopped work for 3 1/2 weeks too. Luckily. as one of my crew got this and was sick for 16 days. Would have killed my 88 year old mother in law with cancer had I brought it home.

Im not belittling anyone Wiley..just pointing out the FACT that unemployment has been ramped up, Max PLUS $600 a week. Sorry. but those are the facts. Pretty sure Nancy Pelosi and the dems pushed that..just saying.

And stimulus packages got paid out.. a couple actually. And people have been sent money. A lot of money. Trillions of tax dollars.

A lot of folks got it and were still working..that is the facts. Members here said as much.

That very money is a major part of the deficit and inflation. That is fact as well. The very same deficit and inflation some of the same folks are yelling about.

Facts seem to bother folks on here these days. I guess you cannot have rational debate on here any longer as so many are irrational here as of late.

So no I do not understand why facts dont matter. I wasnt belittling anyone..just stating the facts.

Now I can see why folks are afraid to post about this. A lot of you just cannot handle the facts and truth here any longer, nor any differing opinion on this virus. Or anyone pointing out folks posting numbers they know are misleading.

Wow. I guess freedom of speech gets over run here now too? By the same folks acting like their constitutional rights are being violated?

Again the hypocrisy here as of lately knows no bounds.





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Originally Posted by JDR4Bama
I wonder how many folks will align themselves with the type of businesses deemed essential. If they don't they might be dumb. If I weren't essential, I'd bail in a heartbeat. Curious as to what that might mean on a greater scale.


Are you saying that if you did not already have a job deemed essential that you would be looking for the first available one that came open?


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Re: Covid Numbers [Re: charlie] #3115354
05/04/20 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by charlie
The 18 people my wife had to fire last monday would disagree with the booming economy theory as well.

Fire? You fire someone for doing something against company policy you lay someone off for lack of work. If you’re fired there is no unemployment... so did she fire them or lay them off. If they were fired then they were screwed for lack of better wording.

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