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Re: Where are the members [Re: gman] #3102108
04/17/20 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gman
Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
There are risk with living in a free society. This covers it all. From driving to your grocery store to catching a illness from the germs that previous shoppers left behind. If you are in fear of those risk then stay at home and I understand your concerns. But the civil liberties of the majority shouldn’t be restricted or down right crushed for the safety of a few.

Is this simple. Ask yourself if your fear of getting sick and the fear of death from it is greater than the wellbeing of your kids and grandkids future. Because in the end the financial cost of this economic shutdown will fall on their backs. Somebody has to pay it back. There is no free money.
Leroy, can i quote you on this? That is perfectly said.



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Re: Where are the members [Re: perchjerker] #3102126
04/17/20 04:57 PM
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Hopefully things can get better as far as folks working and businesses opening but I dont know how they can and not expect a lot of deaths. Its going to be a tough balance.

By the way those saying this was no worse then the flu, TODAY we actually passed the 2018/2019 Flu deaths for a YEAR which was 34,400 influenza related deaths.

There are that many Corona Virus deaths now, 34,400 in just 1 1/2 months. And we havent reached the peak yet.

Very real virus, people are really dying and I think its going to be a lot worse before it gets better.

You guys all stay safe and hopefully this will pass and we can all get back to work.

Last edited by outdoorobsession; 04/17/20 04:57 PM.
Re: Where are the members [Re: ] #3102138
04/17/20 05:12 PM
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I dont think anybody has said it wasnt real. Its as real as 1000 other health risks and dangere we humans deal with every day of our lives as we go about our daily business. Some have said it was manufactured, which is very possible. Some have said the govt has overreacted, considering they were reacting to a number over 4x higher than what is actually going on, they did overreact. Some have said the numbers and other information given to us are mostly lies, by your own admission alot of it is lies. But not real, I dont remember anyone saying that. If you choose to be afraid of this virus and change your whole life based off of that fear, go ahead. Some of the people, you are implying believe this virus isnt real, have chosen to go on about their lives, in spite of this, yet another danger. Its a matter of opinion and yours is no more valid than the next guys. We all have beliefs and opinions and live our lives to the best of our abilities according to those beliefs. Alot of us are going about our lives as normal, as much as theyll let us. Some of you are hiding and taking all the precautions the govt has suggested. So far what are the results? Im healthy and wuhan free, youre healthy and wuhan free. So whos right here?


Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Hopefully things can get better as far as folks working and businesses opening but I dont know how they can and not expect a lot of deaths. Its going to be a tough balance.

By the way those saying this was no worse then the flu, TODAY we actually passed the 2018/2019 Flu deaths for a YEAR which was 34,400 influenza related deaths.

There are that many Corona Virus deaths now, 34,400 in just 1 1/2 months. And we havent reached the peak yet.

Very real virus, people are really dying and I think its going to be a lot worse before it gets better.

You guys all stay safe and hopefully this will pass and we can all get back to work.

Re: Where are the members [Re: cartervj] #3103479
04/19/20 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by Todd1700
The measures taken to minimize the impact of this virus are a classic damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

If people hadn't been compelled to stay home and the schools and large crowd events like concerts and sports venues had not been shut down I can promise you this would have been way, way worse. And the government would have been blasted for not doing enough.

So the government takes these measures and it does help to minimize the spread. (Exactly how much we'll never know) But then when the measures help it opens you up to the charge that this was just a bunch of overated BS because things didn't get as dire as originally predicted.

You can't win either way.

But I can tell you this. I have been an RN for 23 years. I have seen just about every communicable disease we humans transmit to one another in this country. I deal with seasonal flu every year. This is worse than flu. It has a higher rate of complication. Some people have a mild case true but it's hell on the elderly and those with underlying problems. And it can be hell on anyone. We have had one nurse get this virus at our hospital (all of us are tested) and she is in a ICU bed in Montgomery as we speak. She's in her 40's with no serious chronic health issues. There has also been multiple deaths related to this virus even in my little rural corner of the world.

But what the hell do I know. I just do this chit for a living. There are people here at Aldeer that read some chit on an internet blog by some asshat probably living in their mothers basement. They are the real experts here.




I've noticed most of the medical field folks I know have come to a similar thought process. Even those that first thought no big deal now think otherwise.

Y'all should issue a Covid Challenge and see how many badasses are actually willing to traverse the Covid floors of their local hospital, unprotected of course. The kicker, they can't get healthcare after doing so.

I've changed my position on what is happening, I used to think it was being overplayed, now not so much but still not sure of exactly what should be done.
I understand those people that have compromised health issues but now some young and otherwise healthy folks are dying with it makes one think.


I completely understand the economic catastrophe underway, but I do not understand a few things.
Like who was closed down and who wasn't when the large crowds simply shifted from one local to another. Of course politically it depends on which side does what too.

I've watched my wife have to make administrative decisions based on established protocols. She is a recent CEO over a healthcare facility, she is far from a liberal in a very liberal based field.
I'd like for anyone to actually give answers, not rhetoric as to how, when and where all this should play out.

Lastly, if you do not think social distancing or whatever one wants to call it, if it didn't work then why have the larger US metropolitan areas been hit hard while smaller communities have been less effected.

Why did the draconian measures in China mitigate/stop the spread to their larger cities? Wuhan was devastated yet larger cities were largely protected.

Funny I workout with quite a few doctors, nurses and spouses of doctors and nurses and as of today only one has acted like this was the plague of all plagues. The rest are still living life to the fullest and still working out as a group contrary to CDC recommendations. I know one doctor that got sick a week ago so them and their family self quarantined until the test came back negative, but other than that none have been sick recently nor do they wear masks or gloves away from work. Now they all do agree that once contracted it is worse than the flu and I think everyone can agree with that but i don't think we will ever agree on what the government should or shouldn't have done.


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Re: Where are the members [Re: jwalker77] #3103688
04/19/20 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jwalker77

I dont think anybody has said it wasnt real. Its as real as 1000 other health risks and dangere we humans deal with every day of our lives as we go about our daily business. Some have said it was manufactured, which is very possible. Some have said the govt has overreacted, considering they were reacting to a number over 4x higher than what is actually going on, they did overreact. Some have said the numbers and other information given to us are mostly lies, by your own admission alot of it is lies. But not real, I dont remember anyone saying that. If you choose to be afraid of this virus and change your whole life based off of that fear, go ahead. Some of the people, you are implying believe this virus isnt real, have chosen to go on about their lives, in spite of this, yet another danger. Its a matter of opinion and yours is no more valid than the next guys. We all have beliefs and opinions and live our lives to the best of our abilities according to those beliefs. Alot of us are going about our lives as normal, as much as theyll let us. Some of you are hiding and taking all the precautions the govt has suggested. So far what are the results? Im healthy and wuhan free, youre healthy and wuhan free. So whos right here?


Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Hopefully things can get better as far as folks working and businesses opening but I dont know how they can and not expect a lot of deaths. Its going to be a tough balance.

By the way those saying this was no worse then the flu, TODAY we actually passed the 2018/2019 Flu deaths for a YEAR which was 34,400 influenza related deaths.

There are that many Corona Virus deaths now, 34,400 in just 1 1/2 months. And we havent reached the peak yet.

Very real virus, people are really dying and I think its going to be a lot worse before it gets better.

You guys all stay safe and hopefully this will pass and we can all get back to work.



Is all you do argue on here with everyone and pick apart peoples post trying to find something to argue about? Try hunting or fishing. The seasons are open OK?

That was a post of encouragement about things reopening and for everyone to stay safe... but of course..YOU..the non stop Negative Nancy of Aldeer has to try to find something to argue about. Grow the heck up OK?

Yes I believe a lot of this is hype and I dont trust the numbers but guess what? The REALITY is the situation at hand. Not the one youd IDEALLY want but its the REALITY of the current situation. I DEAL with reality..not deny it..

And there were people saying it was a fake virus on here initially go back and look.

And who is scared? I went through 6 counties yesterday..Hunted in Marion Cty..shot a big gobbler in the AM...then drove to Cullman county..took the boat out to keep it going..ran a couple down rigger lines trolling for stripers. Talked to a bunch of other boaters and friends out fishing..and neighbors. Then I drove to Lawrence Cty and checked my land in Trinity, then went home.

Im making the BEST of the current situation and the reality of it. Definitely not going to whine about it non stop like a little Biotch.

You must be the one hiding in your house. You post NON stop about the virus. 20 to 25 times a day..every hour ..from morning until after 3 AM some days. NO LIFER mean anything to you kid?

Jeez man some of you all need to give it a rest and get a freaking life. Really.

My life hasnt changed one dam bit other then we are taking a two to 3 week vacation from work..mainly because 75% of my workers WANT to or need to as a couple have nurses for wives and have to stay home to take care of kids not in school.

We adjusted our schedules accordingly and are all looking as this as our yearly vacation time. Im not in charge of whats open...and neither are you. You incessant WHINING on here isnt going to change anything either.

My favorite restaurants open..take out only,

You want to go fix something..Lowes, HD hardware stores open.

You want fast food...open.

Walmarts. grocery stores OPEN.

So what exactly cant you do? Am I missing something?

Going to the gym is out as its closed but we have a big home gym set up so really..Im NOT doing anything different AT ALL.

Look at your post history..non stop WHINING about the virus.

The shutdown was 2 weeks ago...it started Sunday March 4th. You all are acting like you cant do anything, going to lose your house and business over 2 weeks off so far? WOW is all i can say. Things are going to open back up in the next week or so. Give it rest OK.

And why are you whining? Your ass is staying at home working I saw, but you act like other people are the ones hiding. You talk about socialism but scoffed up the FREE GOVT check and then BRAGGED about it.

Your hypocrisy is unbelievable.

Dont bother replying because I really dont want to hear it. I hate WHINERS . Im going freaking fishing.

You can stay in your bunker and post non stop OK? Have a good day Pumpkin.

Last edited by outdoorobsession; 04/19/20 09:55 AM.
Re: Where are the members [Re: ] #3103716
04/19/20 10:03 AM
04/19/20 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Originally Posted by jwalker77

I dont think anybody has said it wasnt real. Its as real as 1000 other health risks and dangere we humans deal with every day of our lives as we go about our daily business. Some have said it was manufactured, which is very possible. Some have said the govt has overreacted, considering they were reacting to a number over 4x higher than what is actually going on, they did overreact. Some have said the numbers and other information given to us are mostly lies, by your own admission alot of it is lies. But not real, I dont remember anyone saying that. If you choose to be afraid of this virus and change your whole life based off of that fear, go ahead. Some of the people, you are implying believe this virus isnt real, have chosen to go on about their lives, in spite of this, yet another danger. Its a matter of opinion and yours is no more valid than the next guys. We all have beliefs and opinions and live our lives to the best of our abilities according to those beliefs. Alot of us are going about our lives as normal, as much as theyll let us. Some of you are hiding and taking all the precautions the govt has suggested. So far what are the results? Im healthy and wuhan free, youre healthy and wuhan free. So whos right here?


Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Hopefully things can get better as far as folks working and businesses opening but I dont know how they can and not expect a lot of deaths. Its going to be a tough balance.

By the way those saying this was no worse then the flu, TODAY we actually passed the 2018/2019 Flu deaths for a YEAR which was 34,400 influenza related deaths.

There are that many Corona Virus deaths now, 34,400 in just 1 1/2 months. And we havent reached the peak yet.

Very real virus, people are really dying and I think its going to be a lot worse before it gets better.

You guys all stay safe and hopefully this will pass and we can all get back to work.



Is all you do argue on here with everyone and pick apart peoples post trying to find something to argue about? Try hunting or fishing. The seasons are open OK?

That was a post of encouragement about things reopening and for everyone to stay safe... but of course..YOU..the non stop Negative Nancy of Aldeer has to try to find something to argue about. Grow the heck up OK?

Yes I believe a lot of this is hype and I dont trust the numbers but guess what? The REALITY is the situation at hand. Not the one youd IDEALLY want but its the REALITY of the current situation. I DEAL with reality..not deny it..

And there were people saying it was a fake virus on here initially go back and look.

And who is scared? I went through 6 counties yesterday..Hunted in Marion Cty..shot a big gobbler in the AM...then drove to Cullman county..took the boat out to keep it going..ran a couple down rigger lines trolling for stripers. Talked to a bunch of other boaters and friends out fishing..and neighbors. Then I drove to Lawrence Cty and checked my land in Trinity, then went home.

Im making the BEST of the current situation and the reality of it. Definitely not going to whine about it non stop like a little Biotch.

You must be the one hiding in your house. You post NON stop about the virus. 20 to 25 times a day..every hour ..from morning until after 11 PM.

Jeez man some of you all need to give it a rest and get a freaking life. Really.

My life hasnt changed one dam bit other then we are taking a two to 3 week vacation from work..mainly because 75% of my workers WANT to or need to as a couple have nurses for wives and have to stay home to take care of kids not in school.

We adjusted our schedules accordingly and are all looking as this as our yearly vacation time. Im not in charge of whats open...and neither are you. You incessant WHINING on here isnt going to change anything either.

My favorite restaurants open..take out only,

You want to go fix something..Lowes, HD hardware stores open.

You want fast food...open.

Walmarts. grocery stores OPEN.

So what exactly cant you do? Am I missing something?

Going to the gym is out as its closed but we have a big home gym set up so really..Im NOT doing anything different AT ALL.

Look at your post history..non stop WHINING about the virus.

The shutdown was 2 weeks ago...it started Sunday March 4th. You all are acting like you cant do anything, going to lose your house and business over 2 weeks off so far? WOW is all i can say. Things are going to open back up in the next week or so. Give it rest OK.

And why are you whining? Your ass is staying at home working I saw, but you act like other people are the ones hiding. You talk about socialism but scoffed up the FREE GOVT check and then BRAGGED about it.

Your hypocrisy is unbelievable.

Dont bother replying because I really dont want to hear it. I hate WHINERS . Im going freaking fishing.

You can stay in your bunker and post non stop OK? Have a good day Pumpkin.

You are doing the same thing. Just saying. What I am trying to do is encourage people to not be afraid. Im not hiding anywhere, ive been working daylight to dark about every day. I might look an here when im taking a break but all day, no, thats just not true. I dont like the effect fear has had on alot of yall. I dont like the way the news is spreading lies using fear to manipulate people. Look into horse training a little bit. That is exactly what the news is doing. Saying things, truth or not, to get the people to move this way or that way. They do not report the same "facts" two days in a row. Im for freedom and individuals having the right to choose for themselves. I did a job this week for some old folks who havent left their house in over a month, prisoners in their own house. If trump got on tv today with a couple of his paid drs and said "all clear", they would go about their business. Whats going on is wrong. I doubt im gona shut up about it. Like I said my opinion is just as important as yours. So I guess as long as you can give your opinion, I can give mine, right? Or is there some reason you feel you are more important?

Re: Where are the members [Re: bigt] #3103734
04/19/20 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bigt

Funny I workout with quite a few doctors, nurses and spouses of doctors and nurses and as of today only one has acted like this was the plague of all plagues. The rest are still living life to the fullest and still working out as a group contrary to CDC recommendations. I know one doctor that got sick a week ago so them and their family self quarantined until the test came back negative, but other than that none have been sick recently nor do they wear masks or gloves away from work. Now they all do agree that once contracted it is worse than the flu and I think everyone can agree with that but i don't think we will ever agree on what the government should or shouldn't have done.


Funny I had a similar conversation on my front porch 3 weeks ago with someone from the medical field who's spouse is a doctor, children are also in the medical field, some family are working on the Covid floor. They're also friends with all the medical personnel working the Covid floor. Actually first time I'd heard of the genetic side of things cause a family member was actually studying that aspect.

I asked one simply question.
Is this being overplayed? 50/50 was the answer, just like everyone else the doctors they knew were along those same lines, split.

I've personally heard how the race, health, age and several other possible ties to how one responds to the virus. It's not a one size fits all aspect. That's why all of the NEW findings almost on a daily report.

My Dad was on the Covid floor, I actually spoke in person with the Doctor over the Covid floor several times. He described what happens etc... when one has Covid. Said my Dad did not have Covid but had to wait on the test results. He called and we talked when dad was negative, he also called to say sorry to hear of dasd's passing and could not understand why he died. Was impressed with Dad's mental state, sharp as a tack for any age.

I talked to a friend when dad passed away, we're best of friends, he's a Veterinarian. Yes animal Doc however he has several friends that are working with Covid patients in NY. Shan described the same things as to how cells break down, enzymes build and break down saying that the bodies response to the virus is what is so bad. It's not like the Flu in how the body responds that is the difference.
Covid Lungs have a distinct appearance as if broken glass is in the lungs. Xrays or MRI will show this.

My wife works with numerous medical folks, she actually runs a place that has Docs and nurses in a different capacity. They're under protocols because of the virus and have numerous daily conversations about Covid and patients.

With all that being said, I still at that time thought it was being overplayed.

Then my wife was exposed repetitively and directly!

That's when things began to change for me, that person passed away. Our circle's mentality changed a bit.

I've never once advocated for shutting down anything, I have stated it worked in China. If not explain how the spread in China was stopped.

Statistically one can make any case they want to. Yes one can make the case using Stats, that this is just a little bit worse than the flu.

I don't wear gloves except the few time I've greased equipment and tractors. I haven't worn a mask since the last prescribed burn. I still go as I always have. I have 3 of the 4 bad medical issues to have they say. I've had upper respiratory issues (walking pneumonia) since the first of December. Won't go away even after 3 rounds of shots an antibiotics.
My wife keeps being told to wear a mask at work, coworkers keep bringing her some, she refuses.


Like what's being said repetively, it makes no sense to have certain businesses open while others are closed. What is happening to supply chains is absolutely terrible. businesses will be changed by this.

I'd bet money the Gov is following certain protocols that were established many years ago. That's how gov works.
My wife had to dust off their books on what the legal and proper response had to be once all this began.

If you have FB, look up misty dawn tucker. I do not know her. However I do know several of her friends, she is a local lady that went to NY and NJ to work with Covid patients.


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Re: Where are the members [Re: perchjerker] #3103771
04/19/20 10:30 AM
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My wife is a workout fanatic, teaches spin and body pump etc..... she’s going nuts right now.

The newest thing I’ve been seeing. Those that exercise repetively have some immunity to this virus, or so they say.

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Re: Where are the members [Re: jwalker77] #3103787
04/19/20 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Originally Posted by jwalker77

I dont think anybody has said it wasnt real. Its as real as 1000 other health risks and dangere we humans deal with every day of our lives as we go about our daily business. Some have said it was manufactured, which is very possible. Some have said the govt has overreacted, considering they were reacting to a number over 4x higher than what is actually going on, they did overreact. Some have said the numbers and other information given to us are mostly lies, by your own admission alot of it is lies. But not real, I dont remember anyone saying that. If you choose to be afraid of this virus and change your whole life based off of that fear, go ahead. Some of the people, you are implying believe this virus isnt real, have chosen to go on about their lives, in spite of this, yet another danger. Its a matter of opinion and yours is no more valid than the next guys. We all have beliefs and opinions and live our lives to the best of our abilities according to those beliefs. Alot of us are going about our lives as normal, as much as theyll let us. Some of you are hiding and taking all the precautions the govt has suggested. So far what are the results? Im healthy and wuhan free, youre healthy and wuhan free. So whos right here?


Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Hopefully things can get better as far as folks working and businesses opening but I dont know how they can and not expect a lot of deaths. Its going to be a tough balance.

By the way those saying this was no worse then the flu, TODAY we actually passed the 2018/2019 Flu deaths for a YEAR which was 34,400 influenza related deaths.

There are that many Corona Virus deaths now, 34,400 in just 1 1/2 months. And we havent reached the peak yet.

Very real virus, people are really dying and I think its going to be a lot worse before it gets better.

You guys all stay safe and hopefully this will pass and we can all get back to work.



Is all you do argue on here with everyone and pick apart peoples post trying to find something to argue about? Try hunting or fishing. The seasons are open OK?

That was a post of encouragement about things reopening and for everyone to stay safe... but of course..YOU..the non stop Negative Nancy of Aldeer has to try to find something to argue about. Grow the heck up OK?

Yes I believe a lot of this is hype and I dont trust the numbers but guess what? The REALITY is the situation at hand. Not the one youd IDEALLY want but its the REALITY of the current situation. I DEAL with reality..not deny it..

And there were people saying it was a fake virus on here initially go back and look.

And who is scared? I went through 6 counties yesterday..Hunted in Marion Cty..shot a big gobbler in the AM...then drove to Cullman county..took the boat out to keep it going..ran a couple down rigger lines trolling for stripers. Talked to a bunch of other boaters and friends out fishing..and neighbors. Then I drove to Lawrence Cty and checked my land in Trinity, then went home.

Im making the BEST of the current situation and the reality of it. Definitely not going to whine about it non stop like a little Biotch.

You must be the one hiding in your house. You post NON stop about the virus. 20 to 25 times a day..every hour ..from morning until after 11 PM.

Jeez man some of you all need to give it a rest and get a freaking life. Really.

My life hasnt changed one dam bit other then we are taking a two to 3 week vacation from work..mainly because 75% of my workers WANT to or need to as a couple have nurses for wives and have to stay home to take care of kids not in school.

We adjusted our schedules accordingly and are all looking as this as our yearly vacation time. Im not in charge of whats open...and neither are you. You incessant WHINING on here isnt going to change anything either.

My favorite restaurants open..take out only,

You want to go fix something..Lowes, HD hardware stores open.

You want fast food...open.

Walmarts. grocery stores OPEN.

So what exactly cant you do? Am I missing something?

Going to the gym is out as its closed but we have a big home gym set up so really..Im NOT doing anything different AT ALL.

Look at your post history..non stop WHINING about the virus.

The shutdown was 2 weeks ago...it started Sunday March 4th. You all are acting like you cant do anything, going to lose your house and business over 2 weeks off so far? WOW is all i can say. Things are going to open back up in the next week or so. Give it rest OK.

And why are you whining? Your ass is staying at home working I saw, but you act like other people are the ones hiding. You talk about socialism but scoffed up the FREE GOVT check and then BRAGGED about it.

Your hypocrisy is unbelievable.

Dont bother replying because I really dont want to hear it. I hate WHINERS . Im going freaking fishing.

You can stay in your bunker and post non stop OK? Have a good day Pumpkin.

You are doing the same thing. Just saying. What I am trying to do is encourage people to not be afraid. Im not hiding anywhere, ive been working daylight to dark about every day. I might look an here when im taking a break but all day, no, thats just not true. I dont like the effect fear has had on alot of yall. I dont like the way the news is spreading lies using fear to manipulate people. Look into horse training a little bit. That is exactly what the news is doing. Saying things, truth or not, to get the people to move this way or that way. They do not report the same "facts" two days in a row. Im for freedom and individuals having the right to choose for themselves. I did a job this week for some old folks who havent left their house in over a month, prisoners in their own house. If trump got on tv today with a couple of his paid drs and said "all clear", they would go about their business. Whats going on is wrong. I doubt im gona shut up about it. Like I said my opinion is just as important as yours. So I guess as long as you can give your opinion, I can give mine, right? Or is there some reason you feel you are more important?


Dude your just whining and complaining. I hate WHINERS. Our jobs sites when we are building literally we post a sign NO WHINING ALLOWED.

How am i doing the same thing? I post about turkeys, deer hunting, fishing, and leases. I dont whine ever. I'm to busy hunting, fishing, exercising, living life like nothing has changed.

You literally just argue and whine on here non stop . Why dont you go fishing or hunting? Youll feel a lot better.

You arent changing a dang thing with your non stop 20 to 30 posts a day about one subject..the virus. You post about people being scared...and it Sounds like YOU ARE the one scared to be honest. About what actually?

And even you have said just high risk folks like older people should be the ones quarantining..but now youre upset over old folks, who are high risk people ..wait for it.....QUARANTINING. slap

Your talking in cirlces OK?

Also...there are things called sentences and paragraphs. Try using them.

Im out here. Go argue with yourself OK?

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Re: Where are the members [Re: perchjerker] #3103792
04/19/20 10:46 AM
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Dude, you are a hypocrite

Re: Where are the members [Re: perchjerker] #3103882
04/19/20 11:54 AM
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Looks like both sides are whiners to me. rofl


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Re: Where are the members [Re: perchjerker] #3103928
04/19/20 12:35 PM
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I think you need a nap ODO, you seem a little fussy 😀



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Yea..Southwood..too much early ams going turkey hunting lately. I am tired...good advice. My wife was saying the same thing... rofl

Im gone yall. Have a good day

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Re: Where are the members [Re: leroycnbucks] #3112405
04/29/20 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
There are risk with living in a free society. This covers it all. From driving to your grocery store to catching a illness from the germs that previous shoppers left behind. If you are in fear of those risk then stay at home and I understand your concerns. But the civil liberties of the majority shouldn’t be restricted or down right crushed for the safety of a few.

Is this simple. Ask yourself if your fear of getting sick and the fear of death from it is greater than the wellbeing of your kids and grandkids future. Because in the end the financial cost of this economic shutdown will fall on their backs. Somebody has to pay it back. There is no free money.



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Re: Where are the members [Re: CeeHawk37] #3126289
05/19/20 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CeeHawk37
Government does have a role to play. Advise citizens of the health risks, put out advisories to private business of how this virus spreads, close government facilities if it is warranted, close public schools but that’s about where it should stop. Government dictating what private businesses and people are “non-essential” while others are deemed “essential” as well as what activities are acceptable and what are not is complete overreach. If a private business wanted to shut down that’s one thing, but to tell the bait shop down the road they are non-essential while Wally World and Lowe’s make record profits because everyone has nowhere else to shop is bullchit. Is an unequal application of the law. The government in NC declared protesting this crap, even when socially distanced, non-essential and arrested folks over it. That’s a direct violation of the constitution and I hope they sue the everloving crap out of those libs in Raleigh for it.

The problem most of us have with all of this is that the medical folks, LEO, grocery store folks, and all the rest of us essentials are still being exposed to people that may have the virus no matter what. The restrictions have only hurt private businesses the government decided arbitrarily were not essential. Hell NYC didn’t shut down public transit but they shut down private businesses. Columbia’s COMET busses were still running while businesses were shuttered. Killing off private business to “do something” about a virus that at the worst (and very questionable) projections was going to kill less than 1% of the population is in fact insanity. I hate it for those who are infected or have passed because of this but there are other countries that haven’t taken these drastic measures and they aren’t dying of by the droves. The fact that the hospitals are now being directed to list damn near anyone admitted as a case of this virus based on assumption in a lot of cases is further proof of the government trying to cover their ass on their reaction. If you gotta cook the books to prove yourself justified then you weren’t justified from the jump.



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Re: Where are the members [Re: perchjerker] #3126297
05/19/20 10:57 AM
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Still don’t know anyone that has had it.

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