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USPS - But Wait, There's More! #3101963
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wow ... ok, some of you may recall my "battle" with my local carrier over the height of my mailbox; thankfully, that all got resolved - through the Office of Inspector General & Senator Richard Shelby's office ... i actually have had smooth sailing since they cracked the whip; so much so, I can even mail parcels from my own mailbox now -- and they arrive on-time, without issue ...

but NOT to be out-done by that, i'm now in another sparring match w/the USPS -- i shipped a cast iron skillet to a buyer roughly 2 weeks ago, and it arrived on his doorstep with the box blown open & the cast iron skillet cracked on the handle end ... now, bear in mind, i've shipped probably about a dozen skillets now over the past 3 years -- so i've learned to pack iron properly; normally i wrap the handle & and the walls of the skillet with a $1 pool noodle from DG, *and* i make sure the skillet is not moving around in the box, nor would it have any means of escape if handled properly ...

since i shipped with Priority Mail, it includes $50 insurance covered - which covered the sale of this to the buyer ... thankfully, i took pics of the skillet PRIOR TO send it to him -- so i could prove that it was un-damaged prior to me selling/shipping it to him ... i filed a claim to just get my money back out of it -- and it was denied -- this was after the buyer took the skillet to HIS local USPS PO, they inspected it along w/the damage to the box, and AGREED that it had been mis-handled/damaged by the USPS ...

i'm glad I saved my contact to the OIG office in B'ham -- b/c that lady now has a voicemail from me to look into this new matter ... the wonders never cease to amaze me ...

i have appealed the denied claim today on the USPS website & provided additional details -- along with a message that i will raise this all the way to the OIG if they deny it a 2nd time ...

AFTER SHIPPING:
[Linked Image]

BEFORE SHIPPING:
[Linked Image]

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Re: USPS - But Wait, There's More! [Re: BamaGuitarDude] #3101965
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that place is run by damn idiots.


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Originally Posted by BhamFred
that place is run by damn idiots.


you ain't jokin', brother!!! A FAR CRY from when my paw-paw worked for them - he was ex-military & we NEVER had a single issue when he was on the job

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Re: USPS - But Wait, There's More! [Re: BamaGuitarDude] #3101995
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How much force does it take to crack a CAST IRON skillet handle??

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Originally Posted by JA
How much force does it take to crack a CAST IRON skillet handle??


precisely my point, buddy -- A: a chit-ton!


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Re: USPS - But Wait, There's More! [Re: BamaGuitarDude] #3102017
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Intentional damage. She's pissed at you. I hope you get her fired.


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Re: USPS - But Wait, There's More! [Re: BamaGuitarDude] #3102020
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The mail carrier for our neighborhood will leave packages anywhere- on the trash can, behind a parked car. If we happen to leave the garage open, she'll play "hide a package". I've had parcels I didn't find for days, because they were stuck somewhere random.

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Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Intentional damage. She's pissed at you. I hope you get her fired.


you can bet your backside that's EXACTLY what went through my mind; through the grapevine i've heard since my other "escalation" took place, the managers have been riding herd on everybody ... wait till they hear about this one ...

a voicemail is in the OIG's office as we speak - just have to be patient & wait for them to call back

the KICKER on all of this is -- the buyer's USPS PO was wanting to give him money on the spot -- IOW, they've fully admitted fault for the damages ...

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Re: USPS - But Wait, There's More! [Re: BamaGuitarDude] #3102026
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You’ve your mail person po’d. Good luck with that outcome!

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Originally Posted by Butchman205
You’ve your mail person po’d. Good luck with that outcome!


i had good luck with the last one -- and i will have good luck with this one, too ... persistence & presenting undeniable facts is the key

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Re: USPS - But Wait, There's More! [Re: JA] #3102029
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Originally Posted by JA
How much force does it take to crack a CAST IRON skillet handle??
Does it have any flat spots or dings or scratches on it anywhere else...I would need to know prior to my ruling.... crazy


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Originally Posted by DeerNutz0U812_
Originally Posted by JA
How much force does it take to crack a CAST IRON skillet handle??
Does it have any flat spots or dings or scratches on it anywhere else...I would need to know prior to my ruling.... crazy


no sir, it did not -- BEFORE the USPS got ahold of it


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Re: USPS - But Wait, There's More! [Re: JA] #3102060
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Originally Posted by JA
How much force does it take to crack a CAST IRON skillet handle??


Probably launched it from the truck with a trebuchet

Re: USPS - But Wait, There's More! [Re: BamaGuitarDude] #3102092
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While I believe you are being truthful got no reason not to believe you, explain to me if I was USPS why I should believe those 2 pictures are of the same product and you are not just trying to get one over on me (USPS
)? Is that marking 7A unique to that skillet or are there a 1000 of them with 7A, just asking

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Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
Originally Posted by JA
How much force does it take to crack a CAST IRON skillet handle??


Probably launched it from the truck with a trebuchet


She probably used the skillet to whack other folks' mailbox posts until they were no longer within USPS regulation, thereby freeing her from responsibility of delivering their mail. It's a conspiracy.


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Re: USPS - But Wait, There's More! [Re: BamaGuitarDude] #3102095
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Originally Posted by BamaGuitarDude
Originally Posted by DeerNutz0U812_
Originally Posted by JA
How much force does it take to crack a CAST IRON skillet handle??
Does it have any flat spots or dings or scratches on it anywhere else...I would need to know prior to my ruling.... crazy


no sir, it did not -- BEFORE the USPS got ahold of it
That's just Nutz....can you imagine the lick it had to take to crack it like that......Did they drop it off the plane in mid air or something..... slap I mean damn....You ought to sue them bastards for damage to that historic one of a kind antique skillet shocked defimation of character and embarrassment laugh... not to mention lost sleep and all those labor hrs texting back and forth with all parties mad ....Sorry Pal but that does kinda suck....Your luck is runnin bout like mine here lately.... frown Hope you bust someones ass over it.... thumbup


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Originally Posted by BhamFred
that place is run by damn idiots.

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Originally Posted by capehorn24
While I believe you are being truthful got no reason not to believe you, explain to me if I was USPS why I should believe those 2 pictures are of the same product and you are not just trying to get one over on me (USPS
)? Is that marking 7A unique to that skillet or are there a 1000 of them with 7A, just asking


you got it; this is a unique BSR Red Mountain “transition”’skillet - believed to have been made after the Century series began being manufactured after 1950;’most Red Mountain skillets have much larger numbering/lettering — this one has very small lettering


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Re: USPS - But Wait, There's More! [Re: BamaGuitarDude] #3102219
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That pains me to see a piece of history lost due to carelessness. If it was a pure accident, they should own up to it and cut you a check. BTW, that skillet was my very first choice when you posted them all but I moved too slow.

Cast iron is funny. Tough as all get out but fragile. I bought a cast iron camshaft which came in a cardboard tube. When I was handed the tube, the camshaft popped out of the end of the tube on to a hardwoo warehouse floor and broke cleanly at the middle. The dealership graciously ate the cost, about $70 bucks, then.

I recently had a laziness issue with USPS that was difficult to resolve but that was mainly because the entire chain of command was democrats.



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The buyer probably didn’t sign for it damaged. That takes all the liability off the carrier.

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