Originally Posted by Oscarflytyer
1) do y’all think there is even such thing as a brush gun... as in an actual round that’s capable of push light brush and twigs out of the way without deflection?

LONG long time ago, an in-depth test PROVED that ANY bullet was deflected. Key was, a very light bullet (say 55 gr 223) was deflected a lot more than a big ol' fat (say, cast RN 405 gr 45-70) bullet. Bottom line - don't go trying to shoot deer thru trees. It is pure stupidity, and not ethical!

Having said THAT, for brush, there are a bunch (both OLD and new). Some I have that I consider brush calibers (more because close range game getters, and quick in lever and iron sight setups) are lever guns in 30-30, 32 WS, 35 Rem, 43 Spanish and 45-70. Olders in 38-55, 405, 348 Win, 33 WCF, etc. More gun/cal combo. Same with any of the Savage 99s in heavy calibers or slow rounds, like 30-30, 303, 358. Oh yeah, and BLR in 358 Win!!! A good bolt in 300 H&H/375 H&H/458 Win, with good peep sights (think Africa rifles) would be great too


No. Not every shot will deflect, but every bullet that contacts anything other than air between you and the animal has the potential to deflect.

For close hunting, it's hard to beat a short barrel .308.