Hadn’t been able to post due to poor service. Been after em for 5 days and still haven’t killed one. Been on good gobbling bird’s everyday but one. That one day I didn’t hear a gobble till 10am but my 8 yr old missed one at 6:45. Yes it was dark but the bird pitched out and land 10 feet in front of me. He started strutting and got to 20yrds I was able to turn my son and missed. Oh well we are trying to kill some pigs this afternoon and back after the birds in the am