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AL Senate Bill 263 #3059211
03/05/20 04:51 PM
03/05/20 04:51 PM
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Conservation related bill - Ran across this one today. How do you feel about paying deer farmers/high fence operators for their deer if they are seized by the state or Feds to be destroyed due to CWD? SB 263 sponsored by David Sessions of Mobile is in committee and establishes a $500,000 fund that would pay owners of captive cervids up to $3,000 for each deer seized and destroyed due to CWD.

http://alisondb.legislature.state.a....aspx?BILL=SB263&WIN_TYPE=BillResult


Last edited by Overland; 03/05/20 04:53 PM.
Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: Overland] #3059222
03/05/20 05:15 PM
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No and hell no.

Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: Overland] #3059228
03/05/20 05:24 PM
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Those are privately owned business and should be treated as any business that suffers loss
If there is insurance for such then they should have it and if not tuff luck
It absolutely should not be on the shoulders of the good people of Alabama to pay for


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Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: Overland] #3059232
03/05/20 05:29 PM
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Nope and those ranchers should destroy their deer!!


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Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: Overland] #3059237
03/05/20 05:33 PM
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I aint paying for Timbers deer


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Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: Drycreek] #3059242
03/05/20 05:40 PM
03/05/20 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Drycreek
No and hell no.

Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: Overland] #3059284
03/05/20 06:46 PM
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Im gonna say he has a friend in the business...


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Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: Overland] #3059298
03/05/20 06:57 PM
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Link didnt work for me.


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Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: deadeye48] #3059299
03/05/20 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by deadeye48
Those are privately owned business and should be treated as any business that suffers loss
If there is insurance for such then they should have it and if not tuff luck
It absolutely should not be on the shoulders of the good people of Alabama to pay for

I dont believe they can ensure the deer.


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Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: Overland] #3059303
03/05/20 06:59 PM
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I reckon they should be treated like any other farmer. If theyre doing business on the up and up and paying their taxes, they should get the same help as any other farmer in a disaster situation. They are farming deer, like it or not.

Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: jwalker77] #3059306
03/05/20 07:01 PM
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
I reckon they should be treated like any other farmer. If theyre doing business on the up and up and paying their taxes, they should get the same help as any other farmer in a disaster situation. They are farming deer, like it or not.

They're not regulated by the USDA.


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Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: jwalker77] #3059307
03/05/20 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
I reckon they should be treated like any other farmer. If theyre doing business on the up and up and paying their taxes, they should get the same help as any other farmer in a disaster situation. They are farming deer, like it or not.

If insurance wont cover them the taxpayer shouldnt


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Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: Overland] #3059310
03/05/20 07:04 PM
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Is there a fund to pay our cattle ranchers for beef critters that get the Mad Cow? If they can't insure the deer it is only because they haven't called Lloyd's of London.


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Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: Overland] #3059311
03/05/20 07:05 PM
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I don't think y'all are looking at the big picture. This may be private land but this is the States deer. This is YOUR deer. The deer are maintained with money and manpower from the DCNR. YOUR money. They count inside the pens toward Game Check there for have a bearing on seasons and limits. YOUR deer are held for use not for YOU and the general public, but for a select few privately inside a fence. Now, with this, the private land owner would be paid for the deer. Deer they don't own. YOUR deer.

Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: centralala] #3059316
03/05/20 07:06 PM
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Montgomery, Alabama
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Originally Posted by centralala
I don't think y'all are looking at the big picture. This may be private land but this is the States deer. This is YOUR deer. The deer are maintained with money and manpower from the DCNR. YOUR money. They count inside the pens toward Game Check there for have a bearing on seasons and limits. YOUR deer are held for use not for YOU and the general public, but for a select few privately inside a fence. Now, with this, the private land owner would be paid for the deer. Deer they don't own. YOUR deer.

I couldn't read the article but that dont make any sense.


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Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: Overland] #3059321
03/05/20 07:11 PM
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Lt Gov Ainsworth is all over this one I bet.

Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: Overland] #3059322
03/05/20 07:13 PM
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Will Ainsworth, any other questions?


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Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: jaredhunts] #3059328
03/05/20 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jaredhunts
Originally Posted by centralala
I don't think y'all are looking at the big picture. This may be private land but this is the States deer. This is YOUR deer. The deer are maintained with money and manpower from the DCNR. YOUR money. They count inside the pens toward Game Check there for have a bearing on seasons and limits. YOUR deer are held for use not for YOU and the general public, but for a select few privately inside a fence. Now, with this, the private land owner would be paid for the deer. Deer they don't own. YOUR deer.

I couldn't read the article but that dont make any sense.


The deer inside a high fence are not owned by the land owner. They are owned by the State ( you and me). Breeders are different.

Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: centralala] #3059333
03/05/20 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by jaredhunts
Originally Posted by centralala
I don't think y'all are looking at the big picture. This may be private land but this is the States deer. This is YOUR deer. The deer are maintained with money and manpower from the DCNR. YOUR money. They count inside the pens toward Game Check there for have a bearing on seasons and limits. YOUR deer are held for use not for YOU and the general public, but for a select few privately inside a fence. Now, with this, the private land owner would be paid for the deer. Deer they don't own. YOUR deer.

I couldn't read the article but that dont make any sense.


The deer inside a high fence are not owned by the land owner. They are owned by the State ( you and me). Breeders are different.

What a load of crap if they belong to me why cant we shoot em


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Re: AL Senate Bill 263 [Re: Overland] #3059335
03/05/20 07:25 PM
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Our Lt. Governor owns a deer farm. So go figure where this thing came from.


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