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Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: bigfoot15] #3033311
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Originally Posted by bigfoot15
What about the 2 hunters that found the deer, if they moved it without GameCheck being filled out, are they poachers?


Of course. Because if you move it before notifying the governement you're in violation.


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Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Clem] #3033331
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Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by bigfoot15
What about the 2 hunters that found the deer, if they moved it without GameCheck being filled out, are they poachers?


Of course. Because if you move it before notifying the governement you're in violation.


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Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Dano] #3033345
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Not being quarrelsome but them pics must not do that deer justice if them are 6” bases 20” spread and 27” beams

Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Dano] #3033372
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When our neighbor got a ticket for failing to record his deer, the citation was for “ failure to report” not poaching. So I would say it’s not the same. Different violations.


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Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Dano] #3033379
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Poaching is not a technical term under our state laws. It is not a legal term as far as AL is concerned.

Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Dano] #3033381
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judging by the bald spot, i`m guessing 4 1/2

Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: duxlayer] #3033412
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Originally Posted by duxlayer
Not being quarrelsome but them pics must not do that deer justice if them are 6” bases 20” spread and 27” beams

Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: BrentM] #3033434
02/05/20 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BrentM
Originally Posted by lefthorn
Fred

You are retired leo right? What would that offense be classified as if you were still active? Not arguing, I just thought if you didn’t comply with stuff like that then “technically” it is poaching since you violated game laws



Not Fred....... but poaching is by definition stealing the use of somebody else’s land and the critters that live on it. If you believe all the game animals actually do belong to the state then I suppose you could call a gamecheck violation poaching but that would still be quite a stretch.


Devils advocate, I think it is all about how each person defines "poacher", but lets play a game. Are either of these scenarios poaching?

1 - Landowner shoots a deer on his property, during season, at night.

2 - Landowner shoots a deer on his property, during the day, outside of the season.

I'd call that poaching, but that landowner is not stealing the use of someone else's land and the critters that live on it are they?

Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Dano] #3033446
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The state holds game in "public trust" for the people. So baiting turkeys and shooting them with a .22 on your 5th generation family farm is still poaching, IMO.

Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Dano] #3033496
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Game on private property is a public trust. Landowner where the game resides has no more or less rights to that game.

Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Dano] #3033675
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Sorry. Haven’t been on site to respond. No I don’t think poaching has anything to do with Game Check. I am talking about the azzholes that refer to “slipping”. Well if you didn’t know, “slipping” means going onto someone else’s property to kill animals on there property. So these guys are the same scumbags that we are all talking about!

One clarification,I do know some people that refer to “slipping” as getting out of work to go hunting. I AM NOT referring to them.


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Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Dano] #3033746
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Is "slipping" the same as "piddling"? Come March and April check out the turkey hunting forum. I'm sure somebody will justify it.....

Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: OlTimer] #3033752
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Originally Posted by OlTimer
Is "slipping" the same as "piddling"? Come March and April check out the turkey hunting forum. I'm sure somebody will justify it.....

Well now, turkey hunting is a whole different story. A true blue turkey hunter doesn't determine where he hunts, the turkeys make that decision. 😉


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Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Dano] #3033780
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I hate that for yall. Nice deer though


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Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Dano] #3033803
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Hate poachers! nice buck pity it had to end like that!


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Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Zbrann] #3033848
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Originally Posted by Zbrann
Originally Posted by duxlayer
Not being quarrelsome but them pics must not do that deer justice if them are 6” bases 20” spread and 27” beams




Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Dano] #3033868
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Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: duxlayer] #3033881
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Originally Posted by duxlayer
Not being quarrelsome but them pics must not do that deer justice if them are 6” bases 20” spread and 27” beams


That was my thought also. Hate you didnt get their license plate.

Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: Dano] #3036082
02/08/20 03:24 PM
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Hate a poacher.

The son of a friend of mine was hunting yesterday morning and a 4pt came limping into his spot (powerline about 1/2 mile from closest dirt road. He said deer walked out into the middle of the field and just stood there for 15 minutes, never eating or looking around. Just staring off into one direction and then fell over. Dead. The boy got down and went to the deer and it was shot in the ass. Blood was all caked up and dry. He drug the deer out and when cleaning it found the bullet in the neck of the deer. Someone shot that deer from behind. He never heard a shot (nor did my daughter who was about 400 yards away) and with the dried blood we think it could have been shot by a neighbor (or a road rider) the day before.

Was very weird to have a deer walk into his field and fall over dead.

(And he did call it into game check)


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Re: Sorry POS poacher!!!!! [Re: ChrisAU] #3037549
02/10/20 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisAU
Originally Posted by BrentM
Originally Posted by lefthorn
Fred

You are retired leo right? What would that offense be classified as if you were still active? Not arguing, I just thought if you didn’t comply with stuff like that then “technically” it is poaching since you violated game laws



Not Fred....... but poaching is by definition stealing the use of somebody else’s land and the critters that live on it. If you believe all the game animals actually do belong to the state then I suppose you could call a gamecheck violation poaching but that would still be quite a stretch.


Devils advocate, I think it is all about how each person defines "poacher", but lets play a game. Are either of these scenarios poaching?

1 - Landowner shoots a deer on his property, during season, at night.

2 - Landowner shoots a deer on his property, during the day, outside of the season.

I'd call that poaching, but that landowner is not stealing the use of someone else's land and the critters that live on it are they?


According to aldeer you are not allowed to tell anyone what they can do on their own property. People who are for some regulations are just wanting to “limit” our neighbors opportunities to manage their own “herd”. If you want to manage your “herd” at night, that’s perfectly fine.

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