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by Big Game Hunter. 06/04/24 09:19 PM
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Re: CWD
[Re: centralala]
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12/22/19 05:19 PM
12/22/19 05:19 PM
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What's more plausible: CWD infected deer walking down here from Colorado or someone bringing one or parts of one from an infected area? You have a point. I didn't realize the closest deer by walking distance was in Colorado with CWD. In that case, then yes, it will be brought in by a person. A deer is not walking that far. I could have sworn I heard is was closer to Alabama than Colorado though. Colorado is where it was first discovered.
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Re: CWD
[Re: Mbrock]
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12/22/19 05:23 PM
12/22/19 05:23 PM
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I still haven’t heard a coherent explanation of how a dead deer riding across the state line in a truck infects a living deer in the wild...
Dead deer with CWD infected with nonliving protein prions that are discarded into an environment without those prions. Those prions don’t have to be transferred from a living deer to another living deer. There are indirect modes of infection. If the state requires processors to properly dispose of bones/guts/skulls then where does the risk come from? I’ve seen more deer skeletons left on the side of the roads since the law was passed. I wish someone along the way would have thought about a system using a check system with the processors. There’s several processors and taxidermist that are out of business now directly because of the law. Also last time I checked deer don’t know where the state lines are.
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Re: CWD
[Re: N2TRKYS]
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12/22/19 05:56 PM
12/22/19 05:56 PM
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What's more plausible: CWD infected deer walking down here from Colorado or someone bringing one or parts of one from an infected area? You have a point. I didn't realize the closest deer by walking distance was in Colorado with CWD. In that case, then yes, it will be brought in by a person. A deer is not walking that far. I could have sworn I heard is was closer to Alabama than Colorado though. Colorado is where it was first discovered. That has nothing to do with how it will get to Alabama. May not even have to do with where it originated.
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Re: CWD
[Re: centralala]
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12/22/19 06:01 PM
12/22/19 06:01 PM
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What's more plausible: CWD infected deer walking down here from Colorado or someone bringing one or parts of one from an infected area? You have a point. I didn't realize the closest deer by walking distance was in Colorado with CWD. In that case, then yes, it will be brought in by a person. A deer is not walking that far. I could have sworn I heard is was closer to Alabama than Colorado though. Colorado is where it was first discovered. That has nothing to do with how it will get to Alabama. May not even have to do with where it originated. Lol. Ok.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: CWD
[Re: Rutabaga]
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12/22/19 09:01 PM
12/22/19 09:01 PM
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Wiley Coyote
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I wonder if the DCNR is working on a plan and regs for the day that it IS found in AL deer. Or will it be knee jerk/jump thru their ass and come up with something on the spot.
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Re: CWD
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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12/22/19 11:17 PM
12/22/19 11:17 PM
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Thanks, Billy. My new/next question........Does anybody know what buck to doe ratio has to do with CWD?
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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Re: CWD
[Re: Rutabaga]
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12/23/19 09:54 AM
12/23/19 09:54 AM
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Nothing to worry about.
Deer don't cross State lines.
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Re: CWD
[Re: Rutabaga]
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01/13/20 05:35 PM
01/13/20 05:35 PM
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I read an article today stating Mississippi has found forty new cases of CWD. Mostly in two counties adjacent to Tennessee. Please link that article. Thank you.
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Re: CWD
[Re: Rutabaga]
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01/13/20 06:20 PM
01/13/20 06:20 PM
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This article I read stated that the first and second CWD cases found in Mississippi were 160 miles south of the recently found forty cases. It will cover every county in the state before you know it, if it hasn’t already.
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Re: CWD
[Re: Semo]
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01/13/20 08:35 PM
01/13/20 08:35 PM
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to quote dirty Harry. "do you feel lucky, well do you punk?"
Some of it is just how long it takes naturally to make its way in and some of that is luck (or randomness if you like that). In a few of the heaviest testing areas in Missouri less than 1 per thousand deer is positive. So, to get a positive male that is the random member that exhibits the "long-dispersal Genes" and then for him to meet others and infect them after dispersing and traveling miles and remaining alive is difficult.
I have no reason to doubt state agency disease biologists, but I have been looking for some kind of concentric pattern of spread in the highest tested areas. Or spread along spatial boundaries. So far there are clumps of positive deer but it is hard to see the pattern of dispersal in the spread of the disease. Almost makes a person believe it is just underlying in the overall population (test enough and find it) or the spread is from transport of infected specimens.
I admit I don't spend much time on this issue and it has been a while since movement ecology. So just some thoughts when I look at the data and maps. CWD is not underlying in the overall population. Study the progression in the Wisconsin deer herd over the last 20 years. Some counties have a 50% percent infection rate in 2 year old plus bucks. Missouri fits the early infection profile.
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Re: CWD
[Re: Chilli40]
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01/13/20 09:51 PM
01/13/20 09:51 PM
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How are they testing? I killed a deer in TN last year and they wouldn't process it until I registered the harvest. Sure isn't what they do in AL. You have to turn in the head. They test the retropharyngeal lymph nodes, I believe.
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