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Re: Solar vs Coal Power Plants
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01/07/20 09:23 AM
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donia
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How do you store that power? battery banks and solar panels aren't as efficient as you would think, aka it takes a LOT of panels to run a house just like you would run it on the power grid. ideally you have a mix of solar, wind and generator. "supposedly" you can generate more energy, cheaper, running a good generator burning fuel (depending on fuel prices, of course), than setting up for wind and/or solar.
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Re: Solar vs Coal Power Plants
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01/07/20 09:24 AM
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257wbymag
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They taking up good farmland up here putting those damn things in
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Solar vs Coal Power Plants
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01/07/20 09:41 AM
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You left out a major factor in the equation. Natural gas electric generation facilities. It’s really solar vs gas. Unless fracking is banned or some unforeseen event drastically increases gas prices, coal’s ship has already left the port. Some coal plants are already out of the money vs $2/gas.
Solar is actually starting to become competitive on a per MW basis now but as already pointed out it’s not always available when you need it. Battery technology is still lagging and most large scale utility solar doesn’t have battery storage currently available.
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Re: Solar vs Coal Power Plants
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01/07/20 11:08 AM
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Battery technology is still lagging and most large scale utility solar doesn’t have battery storage currently available. This. I was formerly a SINCGARS program manager. It was constantly more battery life....more battery life........Hear still on the products we build today.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: Solar vs Coal Power Plants
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01/07/20 11:27 AM
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slgunnel
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Yep, it's all about the subsidies with wind and solar. You might still be amazed at the cost per MW of these solar farms even AFTER the subsidies. Gas is the cheapest and most efficient way to go, but we need some major pipeline upgrades and new pipeline installed to deliver it consistently. It's a nightmare during winter months. I'll just leave it at that. Been working in the electric utility industry for 24 yrs now dealing with this.
FYI, load peaks roughly at 7-8 in the morning during winter months, and around 4-5 in the afternoon during the summer months. That's Mon-Fri...weekends can be a crapshoot.
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Re: Solar vs Coal Power Plants
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01/07/20 12:08 PM
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GKelly
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liberals spout off about solar power, battery power, wind power.... you got to store it somehow Id like to know how much waste the massive battery banks they'd have to use make when the batteries have to be replaced.
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Re: Solar vs Coal Power Plants
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01/07/20 12:23 PM
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The big solar farms don't use batteries. They provide power when the sun is shining. Then some gas plant some where doesn't have to run Nuke plants produce continuous unless in an outage
"And the days that I keep my gratitude Higher than my expectations Well, I have really good days" Ray Wylie Hubbard
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Re: Solar vs Coal Power Plants
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01/07/20 02:00 PM
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Joe4majors
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Nuclear is the safest, cleanest, and most renewable form of energy we will ever have. It’s mind blowing that people are against it. ^^^This Somewhere I heard, maybe it was on here, that more people died falling off roofs installing solar panels than nuclear power plants.
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Re: Solar vs Coal Power Plants
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01/07/20 03:15 PM
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Nuclear is the safest, cleanest, and most renewable form of energy we will ever have. It’s mind blowing that people are against it. Nuke plants are where I make my money.
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Re: Solar vs Coal Power Plants
[Re: whack-n-stack]
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01/07/20 06:06 PM
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This is a little off topic, and I know they can't hold a candle to coal, gas, and nuclear power, but I thought this idea would be nice if I lived on the coast somewhere around Maine or Nova Scotia.
That would have to be to massive to produce any real energy it isn't logical. You would be far better off limiting the water input and installing a water turbine. Salt water would corrode anything you built it from.
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Re: Solar vs Coal Power Plants
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01/08/20 08:04 PM
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Solar power is just another liberal lie crooked politicians sold to America.
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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