Welcome back Eddie. You'll be gone again soon. But hey, good try.

There's one less now...I watched the GW finish it off after it was hit by a car yesterday. Started to save him a trip but chose to do the legal thing.

I agree totally.

But I don't think it has to do with millennials per se, but yeah, it is messed up - and part of the overall dumbing down
and moral/ethical degradation of the entire country.

No more fair chase.
No more woodsmanship.
Just piles and truck loads of corn.


>>>>>>>>and every big buck killed over corn/with the aid of corn will forever have an *asterisk* by it.
Just like sports teams that used illegal players or athletes who used performance enhancing drugs.
And will never be eligible for entry into the B&C or P&Y.

And will just give more debate ammo to the "animal rights" anti-hunting commies.

I'm not a millennial but it aggravates me to see grown men blame millennials for this problem. These same grown men raised the millennials they're complaining about so who's fault is it really? Quit scape goating the younger generation for your failures as a mentoring generation. Every poacher, trespasser, outlaw I've met hasn't been a millennial. These are the people teaching this younger generation its ok to "hunt" like this.

A pile of corn is not different than a food plot. Bait is bait. Move along.

Boomers - Born between 1946 and 1964

Generation X - Born between 1966 and 1979

Xennials - Born between 1975 and 1985

Millennials - Born between 1980 and 1994

Generation Z - Born between 1995 and 2012

Generation "Alpha" - 2013-2025

Yep. It's simply outsourcing the work of baiting to another farm. Maybe we all ought to really get on our high horses and refuse to buy outsourced seed that we all use to grow our food plots with. All of that wheat, oats, and clover were grown somewhere in the USA on some farm, no different than the bags of corn we buy. The righteous indignation some have over a bag of corn over a bag of seed wheat is amazing to me. Keep telling yourself that it's somehow different buying your planting seeds, but it isn't.

Why have we made killing a deer so damn complicated? I feel like I need a law degree just to figure out the damn regs this year. The State of Alabama will NEVER be able to regulate the deer population the way you, or I, or they want it regulated. It's too complicated a problem with too many variables to be controlled over too large an area.

It was easy when it was a buck a day, doe days were x-number of days, bow season was October 15 to November 23 or so, and it ended on January 31.

To those who say "buck a day" is lunacy, it balances out between the guy hunting one and the guy killing 8 or 10. Not everyone killed just one and not everyone killed 8 or 10. The "I know a guy who killed 16 one year and just cut the horns off!" is an outlier in the overall.

"Buck a day" gave you freedom of choice. "Doe days" meant you got that chit done in those two weeks or so. "Gun season" didn't include a special muzzleloader season or youth days or exemptions and carve-outs. Those with common sense and a desire for freedom of choice and liberty lost out to those wanting more regulations and laws, fees and imposing their "quality experience" on everyone.

I've been hunting since the late 1970s, starting in Greene County. In the last 12 years - ever since the 3-buck limit was mandated - I've heard more outright bitching, complaining, distrust and hatred of the DCNR and a desire for hunting to be easier and fun than ever before. And we get more added every year in some form or another, the latest being all this baiting crap (with a fee) and mandatory check in-out at WMAs every time you set foot on the property.

He's right you know...

Yall whine as much as my 2,3, and 6 year olds. Just do what you want and leave everyone else the hell alone.

nothing really to add to this thread except I bought my $15 piece of paper today, that says I can hunt over corn. ROW TYE

That does seem to be the popular option among the idiots.

First of all I will preface this by saying I hardly deer hunt anymore. Nor do I hunt over corn when I do. And I don't care if you do or don't.

But I'm surprised you fail to see at least a fair argument that distinguishes food plots from baiting over corn.

Once you start shooting deer over your bait station, tracking them after the shot, and changing out the cameras bi weekly and the deer stop coming to that part of the property, you simply move your feeder to the other side of the property where the deer aren't spooked. After those deer get spooked, you move to a third spot and so on and so on.

But once you booger up a food plot after over hunting it and shooting at deer, tracking deer, and changing trail cams you can't just move on unless you have more food plots you haven't hunted.

Food plots require more "consideration" unlike bait stations.

So yes, the debate involves elements of fair chase.

Whether you agree with it, that's the way that it is and how lots of people perceive it.

It's no different. Idiot or not.

You've really got to twist yourself in a pretzel to justify food plots being more fair chase than corn.

Personally, I think your "consideration" angle (the argument that food plots require more consideration than using corn) is the height of hunting elitism. Whether you agree with that or not, that's the way lots of people perceive it.

Incorrect. A pile of corn will be deemed illegal to hunt over when the first case of CWD is found in Alabama.

A food plot will still be a legal means of hunting...without the need of a permit.

True, even though with a plot you're helping congregate deer in one area for an unnatural, supplemental food-substance source as they pee, poop, leave saliva and communicate with each other via touching noses.

Just like they do when they're eating corn spewed by a spinner feeder or have their head in a trough.

But, food plots are "conservation" and OK because they don't help spread CeeDubyaDee like evil unethical corn feeders-troughs-piles.

Here's a scenario that played out the past two years.

Last season, my son was 13 and got to start sitting on his own for the first time. He was after his first buck, and solo at that. He passed on a few opportunities at small bucks hunting with me the year before, and was waiting for one he would be proud of. I could care less how big the buck was, but he decided that. He hunted his rear end off, scouted, worked and worked, hung in there, sleep deprived, and come rut it paid off and he got a nice 8 point, very heavy mature deer. Took him 30-40 stand hours.

Fast forward to this year. I put a feeder on the edge of a small green field this summer that historically didn't produce all that well. I filled it up every 3 weeks or so. First and only feeder I have ever put out. Lots of tracks around it. I suggest we go sit there this weekend, for the youth hunt. He agrees. We get in the stand 30 minutes before daylight, and 30 minutes later there is a very nice 8 point standing under the feeder. He made a good shot and the rest is history.

That's the difference right there, summed up in one boy's experience. It's flat out easier to kill a good deer with a corn feeder, that is a fact.

I don't personally care how folks hunt, that's their business. Baiting will change the way deer have historically been hunted in Alabama. Positive or negative depends on one's personal beliefs, but it's night and day different than not hunting over bait. A greenfield is a growing food source, not a bait pile.

Ethically, it's no different. But if that makes you feel batter to think otherwise then that's fine. Not an issue.