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Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Todd1700] #294004
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where on the other hand you can kill a deer with a spear if you have a deer standing at a bait pile.


Yeah, you run right out and try that. LOL! Film it for us so we can see how easy that turns out for you.

If we are banning what makes killing deer easy then firearms would have to be the first thing to go. I could easily kill 25 a year with a gun and never lay eyes on a grain of corn. If you kill 25 deer in one season with a spear over any kind of bait I'll kiss your @$$ under the main redlight in your hometown and give you 2 weeks to draw a crowd to watch.

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Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Skinny] #294020
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Amazing to me the folks that say they've never hunted over bait, yet they can tell you how easy it is.

Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Skinny] #294051
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ok... im going to brake this down for everyone to understand... Hunting is like masterbation. If the "man" says hey fella you can only use your right hand. Then all the south paws are going to have a fit. Ya see, some states can use their left hand, and this pleases them. Now you can't sit here and say you dont wanna be pleased, weather its from the right or the left," different stokes for different folks". but the out come is still the same. ONE HAPPY ASS HUNTER!! hahahahahaha


Roll Tide!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all...
Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Todd1700] #294075
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Originally Posted By: Todd1700
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so....anti baiters = male chauvinist? Hmmm, very interesting observation there.


Your homework assignment for tonight, look up the word "Analogy" and learn how people use them in a debate, Cause that's twice now that one has obviously just whizzed right over your head.



your homework for tonight. Look up the word sarcasm shocked

by the way, your last post about how if everyone thought like me women still wouldn't be voting is not an analogy. Your other homework assignment is to look up analogy, so if you want to use one you can.

Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Todd1700] #294076
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Originally Posted By: Todd1700
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where on the other hand you can kill a deer with a spear if you have a deer standing at a bait pile.


Yeah, you run right out and try that. LOL! Film it for us so we can see how easy that turns out for you.

If we are banning what makes killing deer easy then firearms would have to be the first thing to go. I could easily kill 25 a year with a gun and never lay eyes on a grain of corn. If you kill 25 deer in one season with a spear over any kind of bait I'll kiss your @$$ under the main redlight in your hometown and give you 2 weeks to draw a crowd to watch.


Now that there's funny! I don't care who ya are.

Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: BUCKMAN26] #294077
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Originally Posted By: BUCKMAN26
ok... im going to brake this down for everyone to understand... Hunting is like masterbation. If the "man" says hey fella you can only use your right hand. Then all the south paws are going to have a fit. Ya see, some states can use their left hand, and this pleases them. Now you can't sit here and say you dont wanna be pleased, weather its from the right or the left," different stokes for different folks". but the out come is still the same. ONE HAPPY ASS HUNTER!! hahahahahaha


Todd, this is an analogy, but just a bad one... frown

Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Skinny] #294081
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not bad just truthful


Roll Tide!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all...
Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Skinny] #294083
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and sometimes the truth hurts, i put it where 97% of men could understand, hope your not part of that 3%


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Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Skinny] #294105
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I think you think way to much about what other men do in their spare time and would feel much better if you didn't care whether or not I'm in your 97% or 3%.

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Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Skinny] #294211
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hahahaha people are waaaay to serious


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Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Skinny] #294294
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I hope the folks over in the Legislature
take a look at this thread and see what they
are doing to the deer hunting world: causing
a lot of division and conflict.

If they legalize this unethical and unsportsmenlike
method of "hunting" it will get a whole lot worse
and the conflict will not just be internet debate
it will be real life and real personal for tens of
thousands of people.


"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: WmHunter] #294312
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Originally Posted By: WmHunter
I hope the folks over in the Legislature
take a look at this thread and see what they
are doing to the deer hunting world: causing
a lot of division and conflict.

If they legalize this unethical and unsportsmenlike
method of "hunting" it will get a whole lot worse
and the conflict will not just be internet debate
it will be real life and real personal for tens of
thousands of people.

They are creating Master-baiters.

Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: jmj120] #294327
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If they legalize this unethical and unsportsmenlike
method of "hunting


So you don't hunt near green patches, white oak trees, honeysuckle vines, or any form of bait? If so then I admire you for taking on a greater challenge. If you do hunt over any form of bait then you are just another in a long line of hypocrites on the other side of this debate.


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Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Todd1700] #294331
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Originally Posted By: Todd1700
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If they legalize this unethical and unsportsmenlike
method of "hunting


So you don't hunt near green patches, white oak trees, honeysuckle vines, or any form of bait? If so then I admire you for taking on a greater challenge. If you do hunt over any form of bait then you are just another in a long line of hypocrites on the other side of this debate.



So says Todd1700... who still hasn't figured out that his opinion is not fact and continues to stoop to name calling wink

Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Todd1700] #294334
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by the way, your last post about how if everyone thought like me women still wouldn't be voting is not an analogy


If everyone thought like you, "never questioning the why of a law" then yes women still would not be able to vote. Get it now? And yes that is an Analogy.

Here, let me help you.

Analogy: Logic . a form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects.


The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back.
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Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Todd1700] #294337
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So says Todd1700...


So says anyone with a grain of common sense. Bait is bait.


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Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Todd1700] #294349
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who still hasn't figured out that his opinion is not fact


Tell me what part of the following isn't a fact.

A corn feeder, if legalized, would be a food source placed in a specific location by humans for the express purpose of drawing a deer into range of a gun or bow so it can be killed.

A green patch, which is already legal, is a food source placed in a specific location by humans for the express purpose of drawing a deer into range of a gun or a bow so it can be killed.

Some of us have the brains to see the absurdity of one being legal while the other is not since they are the "Exact Same Activity".

And not one person on your side of this debate, you included, has "EVER" given one credible, fact based reason that there is any difference between these two things that warrants one being illegal while the other is not.

Now, here is where you delve off into some side issue or diversionary question to mask the fact that you can't actually come up with a reason they are morally or ethically any different either. Don't feel bad though, nobody else on your side can either. Thankfully it looks like even the powers that be in government are finally coming around to the absurdity of the situation.


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Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Todd1700] #294351
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Originally Posted By: Todd1700
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by the way, your last post about how if everyone thought like me women still wouldn't be voting is not an analogy


If everyone thought like you, "never questioning the why of a law" then yes women still would not be able to vote. Get it now? And yes that is an Analogy.

Here, let me help you.

Analogy: Logic . a form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects.


you didn't infer. you stated that women wouldn't be voting now if everyone thought like me. Not an analogy but a statement based on your opinion.

An analogy would be something like "being in favor of killing deer over corn is like being in favor of legalizing drugs". A statement based on one's opinion would be something like "people that support hunting over a corn pile are the same people that support legalizing illegal drugs.

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I guess Texas hunters aren't as ethical as Alabama hunters.........(insert sarcasm here)
These folks that are against this sure do seem to know a lot about it. Makes you wonder.

Re: New Baiting Bill from the Senate [Re: Todd1700] #294357
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Originally Posted By: Todd1700
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who still hasn't figured out that his opinion is not fact


Tell me what part of the following isn't a fact.

A corn feeder, if legalized, would be a food source placed in a specific location by humans for the express purpose of drawing a deer into range of a gun or bow so it can be killed.

A green patch, which is already legal, is a food source placed in a specific location by humans for the express purpose of drawing a deer into range of a gun or a bow so it can be killed.

Some of us have the brains to see the absurdity of one being legal while the other is not since they are the "Exact Same Activity".

And not one person on your side of this debate, you included, has "EVER" given one credible, fact based reason that there is any difference between these two things that warrants one being illegal while the other is not.

Now, here is where you delve off into some side issue or diversionary question to mask the fact that you can't actually come up with a reason they are morally or ethically any different either. Don't feel bad though, nobody else on your side can either. Thankfully it looks like even the powers that be in government are finally coming around to the absurdity of the situation.


"PLACED" is the key word. See how you threw in the word "placed" in the same sentence as foodplot? Well that was incorrect. Foodplots are planted not "placed" and thus the difference between hunting over bait and hunting over a food source. Example. You can legally hunt a white oak but the second you collect white oak acorns and "PLACE" them in your hunting spot it is considered "BAIT". Thanks for helping me prove my point. smile

And yes, if you go back and read other posts and/ or literature in publications regarding baiting there is a lot of information that explain the difference between foodplots and natural food sources and bait, with regards to benefiting wildlife and hunting too.

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