Thanks for the input. I plan on using the dial for only this hunt. And will call the outfitter prior to ordering to get an elevation and load recommendation. For the one time use I think it will really help. Especially since most my shots are less than 100 now and the ability to just dial and hold would help me out. I disagree with the idea that Leupold is a low quality scope. Sorry not spending 2000 on a Zeiss or other higher end brand. But I will do my homework and then shoot at those distances first day we arrive to be sure I can make the best shot on the animal.

Leupold makes great scopes. However they are proven to be less than perfect in regards to dialing for distance. WAY better options out there for dialing in the SAME price range.

My vxr has the CDS but i don't use it, i have my Nightforce scopes for that job

It is until it isn’t and then you won’t😉

I have a friend who tests scopes for the military who tells me that there is really no difference in the internals of a VX2 and one of their higher end scopes. Even Leupolds top end military stuff has a much higher failure rate than Nightforce according to my friend who tests with tens of thousands of rounds dialed every year.

Actually Zeiss and Swaro aren't any better though except for the newest models designed especially for dialing.

Here is the list of “reliable” scopes for twisting turrets complied by a guy that’s involved with shooting about 500K rounds a yr.

One of the scopes cost about $250 so deep pockets aren’t a prerequisite for a reliable scope.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...of-tested-and-proven-scopes#Post14224464

And this is why you don’t risk and out of state hunt with a CDS.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/12610974/1

Never had a minutes trouble out of my Leupold cds scopes or their non cds scopes.

Surely you gest!!!

Buddy here dropped one out past 700yds with his VX6 with CDS, and he's no long range shooter. With the price point difference with Leopold's mil discount it's hard to beat. I just ordered a VX3 with the dial and will be fine< I'm probably only shooting 400 or so max I would think. Plus, I'm spending my cash on archery goodies lol since I like it more than gun hunting.

That dial may or may not be on if you just go with a recommendation and what's on the box. Shoot through a chrono and do as they recommend. Friend of mine did and he was popping plates right outta the box with his dial at 600. I thought it was pretty cool.

That's weird because it's a 4000 foot spread from the info you give them. If I order with 2000ft listed its supposed to be good from 0-4000. I'm guessing he choked

I’m gonna find out tomorrow.

Nightforce.

Dialed my $500 SWFA 3-9x42 for my elk a couple weeks ago. Zero chance I’d trust a Loopy to do that on a hunt that is prepared for all year long where you have one shot or bust.

It’s not that elevation makes a big change, elevation actually makes no change. It’s air pressure. But anyway, changing environmental factors move your window of error up or down. On a target at a range with a perfect trigger pull and conditions, he probably wouldn’t see much change at all, even out to a few hundred yards. To make it simple, let’s say he’s 4” higher at 10k feet than he is it at 500 feet at 300 yards. That’s minute of deer, or whatever. But let’s say he also pulls the shot 6” high. Which is a very small glitch in the trigger pull or setup. That is now a miss at 300 yards, when at 500’ he’d still spine it. Just a vague generalization.

How many dialed yardage shots? What ranges?

About a couple hundred a year. I go out to around 400 yds.