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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: Remington270]
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10/21/19 10:18 AM
10/21/19 10:18 AM
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GomerPyle
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The part that nobody mentions is that it literally makes no difference if "climate change" is real, and if humans are causing it. No one will change anything they do. It amazes me we even argue about it. I don't see anyone skipping their airline flight to New York, or staying at home instead of driving to the beach because they feel so bad about burning fossil fuels. Because it isn't about reducing it....it's about power and money. And if they can convince a large portion of the population that we are impacting it, then they can justify more and more laws/regulations/fines, in the name of "Fighting Climate Change", to increase government control and/or $$$. If we TRULY believed that we were going to destroy the world and kill off mankind unless we reduced our "Carbon Footprints", the whole "carbon credit" wouldn't be a thing.... "your business practices are going to destroy the world and kill us all!!!! But, it's ok because you paid some extra fines, so don't sweat it.BS
Last edited by GomerPyle; 10/21/19 10:21 AM.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars 2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement 3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: GomerPyle]
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10/21/19 10:24 AM
10/21/19 10:24 AM
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Remington270
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Because it isn't about reducing it....it's about power and money.
No doubt about it.
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: Joe4majors]
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10/21/19 10:26 AM
10/21/19 10:26 AM
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UncleHuck
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Explain to me why CO2 is not a greenhouse gas. Also explain how the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has almost doubled within the past 150 years and that change is natural and not “man-made.” Go. I could, but this article says it a lot better - MASH
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: NSDQ160]
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10/21/19 10:26 AM
10/21/19 10:26 AM
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daylate
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We know there are countless dinosaur fossils in the northern plains (Montana). We also know that Alabama at least up to around Selma used to be under a shallow sea. We know that just the opposite was also true in the more near past because of the underwater cypress forest off of Ft Morgan that proves the Mobile/Tensaw delta used to be much further offshore. We know that the dinosaurs were cold blooded and that it must have been a warm climate in Montana for them to exist there. The earth's weather is constantly changing back and forth and always has been. Trying to control other people's lives because of it is the real issue.
Last edited by daylate; 10/21/19 10:37 AM.
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: NSDQ160]
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10/21/19 10:27 AM
10/21/19 10:27 AM
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bill
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The coming ice age/ global warming/ climate change/ climate catastrophe is big business , just as it's been since the 1970's. The predictions from the 70's didn't come true. Neither did the ones from the 90's or 2000's. I get a kick out of seeing people get so worked up over something they have no control over. I wish God would have thought about all of us humans destroying what he created before he made all this bible prophecy about end times. According to some scientist, and citizen climate worriers, no one will be around to see those prophecies.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: NSDQ160]
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10/21/19 10:46 AM
10/21/19 10:46 AM
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There are many factors that have effected what we now see as our weather. You may not believe in global warming. But, as others have stated that way back in the last 60 years or so the climate was a lot different back then with more snow, colder temps etc.. On the other hand if you look at weather we have now you cannot discount the effect that mankind has had on the planet as a whole either. We cut down wide swaths of trees every year all over the planet which helped remove C02 from the atmosphere thereby keeping the temps from rising each year/decade. We keep expanding outwards from already populated areas laying concrete that holds heat in and releases it at night. Sooner or later this type of expansion will tip the scales of what the Earth can bounce back from and the human race will have no choice but to realize that we have indeed had a major role in the Earths climate demise. It will not happen in our time as many scientists relate, but it will happen sooner or later. I remember when we had four seasons. Now it seems to be only 2 or maybe 3 depending on where you are located. The animal populations from bees to our beloved deer are on the decline with diseases not ever seen before. There are species that go extinct every year. Who or what do we blame this on? It's gotta start somewhere. I would love a gentle spring with cooler temps for Turkey hunting that roll into summer for fun in the sun. I remember a fall time with an "Indian" summer for a week or 2 before a nice cold winter moving in. It's all gone now, we see a blistering summers followed by a couple of weeks for fall, and a lukewarm winter. It's all changing that's a fact. What will(can) we do about it? It boils down to who we think we can blame and one side gets butt hurt while the other has no better ideas and would just as soon bicker as to find a resolution. It's called politics. Just like the Dems try to blame the right for everything. It has become comical to watch our elected officials point fingers at each other, rather than come up with an actual remedy. It's getting truly embarrassing watching the sheeple getting herded from point to point while to wolves keep carving away from the 2nd to the corn. The rally cry should be Idots, Morans and Caulds oh my... sorry for rant.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: Guru]
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10/21/19 10:58 AM
10/21/19 10:58 AM
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Remington270
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What will(can) we do about it? Why not start at home? Have you stopped using as much gasoline? I certainly hope your'e not eating any meat. What about keeping your home much cooler in the winter, and warmer in the summer, thereby using less electricity?
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: Remington270]
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10/21/19 11:08 AM
10/21/19 11:08 AM
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Yes, I have cut back on the electricity. I don't drive my car more than necessary. I try to get my stuff done in one trip as much as I can. I try not to waste. And yes I have cut back on meat consumption, but enjoy steak once in a while like you I'm sure. I am no tree hugger by any means. I'm definitely trying to do my little part as best as I can. What about you?? What will(can) we do about it? Why not start at home? Have you stopped using as much gasoline? I certainly hope your'e not eating any meat. What about keeping your home much cooler in the winter, and warmer in the summer, thereby using less electricity?
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: NSDQ160]
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10/21/19 11:18 AM
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2Dogs
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I remember being taught in school the earth was still coming out of the last ice age so temps would be rising.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: NSDQ160]
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10/21/19 11:25 AM
10/21/19 11:25 AM
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wew3006
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I don't believe the OP was trying to start, another, climate change debate?
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: Guru]
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10/21/19 11:26 AM
10/21/19 11:26 AM
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Remington270
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Yes, I have cut back on the electricity. I don't drive my car more than necessary. I try to get my stuff done in one trip as much as I can. I try not to waste. And yes I have cut back on meat consumption, but enjoy steak once in a while like you I'm sure. I am no tree hugger by any means. I'm definitely trying to do my little part as best as I can. What about you?? What will(can) we do about it? Why not start at home? Have you stopped using as much gasoline? I certainly hope your'e not eating any meat. What about keeping your home much cooler in the winter, and warmer in the summer, thereby using less electricity? Good. Not many folks practice what they preach.
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: 257wbymag]
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10/21/19 11:29 AM
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BamaGuitarDude
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Acid rain was gonna kill us all too & eggs b/c of the cholesterol ... now they're saying eating red meat causes cancer
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ALDeer physics: for every opinion, there's an equal & opposite opinion
A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer.
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: NSDQ160]
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10/21/19 11:30 AM
10/21/19 11:30 AM
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bill
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I hope everyone starts driving less and eating less. Prices would go down and I could eat better and travel more.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: NSDQ160]
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10/21/19 11:31 AM
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So what yall gonna do about the goings on in Asia? The USA is a drop in the bucket compared to China and Russia and i don't believe they're too concerned about global warming. Throw on top of that what's happening in south America...it don't matter what we do here.
The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: NSDQ160]
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10/21/19 11:33 AM
10/21/19 11:33 AM
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Scout308
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Its Climate! It always changes, always has and always will!
"America First! Nothing Else Matters"
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: gman]
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10/21/19 11:33 AM
10/21/19 11:33 AM
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GomerPyle
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So what yall gonna do about the goings on in Asia? The USA is a drop in the bucket compared to China and Russia and i don't believe they're too concerned about global warming. Throw on top of that what's happening in south America...it don't matter what we do here. I may be mis-remembering, but I'm pretty sure I've read some stats that basically say China and India, together, account for an overwhelming majority of pollution/greenhouse gasses/etc, more than the rest of the world combined.....so yeah, anything "we" do is just virtue-signaling until we force their hand.
Last edited by GomerPyle; 10/21/19 11:34 AM.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars 2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement 3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: UncleHuck]
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10/21/19 11:43 AM
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Joe4majors
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Explain to me why CO2 is not a greenhouse gas. Also explain how the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has almost doubled within the past 150 years and that change is natural and not “man-made.” Go. I could, but this article says it a lot better - MASHToo bad the "chemist" doesn't actually use science. Who said anything about heating ALL of the ocean water? The temp of the water 2 miles down doesn't mean much. The top layer of water is what matters. Are we to believe the Gulf of Mexico surface water doesn't heat up during the summer? Where is his math on that? Hot air melts ice that's above sea level...not hot ocean water. Does snow up north melt during the summer because of changing ocean temps or air temps?
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Re: Warmer Winters
[Re: 2Dogs]
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10/21/19 11:49 AM
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blumsden
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I remember being taught in school the earth was still coming out of the last ice age so temps would be rising. Yea, last time I checked the entire earth was covered in ice and guess what? It thawed out and that was waaaaaayyyyyy before any man made greenhouse gases were around. Just look back when we were breaking heat records a couple weeks ago. Did you notice that some of the records were several decades old? Whats up with that? Look, the world is changing, it always is. Remember the dinosaurs, well they're not around anymore, and we didn't get rid of them. Everything in nature runs in cycles. Don't know where ya'll hunt but it gets down in the low 20's quite a few times, even the teens. Hell just a few years ago we broke a record for cold days in single digits. Nothing ever stays the same.
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